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I think we are beating a dead horse at this point, time to come to a concenus, I am not sure how you agree on these sort of things something like this?: My Vote: YES Riley Childs Library Director and IT Admin Junior Charlotte United Christian Academy P: 704-497-2086 (Anytime) P: 704-537-0331 x101 (M-F 7:30am-3pm ET) Sent from my iPhone Please excuse mistakes > On Nov 11, 2013, at 7:09 PM, Mitar <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi! > > Internet Archive is not storing any IPs, but just one-way hashes of > them, which they cycle regularly. So they can still have statistics, > but no privacy information is stored. > > And yes, please don't use Google Analytics if you worry about your > users' privacy. But for that, users can use things like Ghostery > (https://www.ghostery.com/) to protect themselves. If you do not have > HTTPS, they cannot do much to protect themselves. > > > Mitar > >> On Mon, Nov 11, 2013 at 9:58 AM, Ordway, Ryan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> HTTPS prevents passive monitoring at the application level, but there is >> still nothing stopping the government from issuing a subpoena for the >> webserver log files. They can still see what you're doing at the network >> level, granted they can only see source and destination IPs and ports. With >> enough analysis, some level of usage can be inferred. >> >> Unless we want to turn off the access logs and remove any Google Analytics >> tags, there are still ways for usage to be monitored and tracked. Unless >> you always delete your browser history or use something like Chrome's >> Incognito mode, your browser is tracking you too. >> >> If Internet Archive has issues with HTTPS, it's easy enough to exclude them >> from any URL rewriting so they can continue to harvest via HTTP. >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Sun, Nov 10, 2013 at 2:45 AM, Mitar <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> Hi! >>> >>>> On Wed, Nov 6, 2013 at 5:37 PM, Riley Childs <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> Why? HTTPS is used when there is sensitive data involved, code4lib.org(at least to my knowledge) does not have sensitive data? >>> >>> It is not just about the security of the users but privacy of the >>> users as well. Internet Archive moved to HTTPS so that nobody could >>> monitor what their users are accessing. >>> >>> >>> Mitar >>> >>> -- >>> http://mitar.tnode.com/ >>> https://twitter.com/mitar_m > > > > -- > http://mitar.tnode.com/ > https://twitter.com/mitar_m