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It all takes me back to the heady days of "MARC Must Die, and Be Disposed of with Minimal Impact on the Environment". Now we're leaving the next generation to deal with the North Pacific Subfield Whorl. Sad. Peter Peter Binkley Digital Initiatives Technology Librarian Information Technology Services [log in to unmask] 2-10K Cameron Library University of Alberta Edmonton, Alberta Canada T6G 2J8 phone 780-492-3743 fax 780-492-9243 On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 6:36 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I ask you, would you want to work all day sitting on top of a huge pile of > radioactive MARC records? I sure wouldn't... > Roy > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 5:08 PM, Bill Dueber <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > The sad thing is that the Library of Congress spent billions of dollars > of > > taxpayer money building a safe storage facility in the stable caves under > > Dublin, OH, but now no one will let them bury them there. > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 4:50 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > > I can't help wondering what the half-life of a radioactive MARC record > > is. > > > My guess is it is either really, really short or really, really long. > ;-) > > > Roy > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 1:39 PM, Peter Binkley < > [log in to unmask] > > > >wrote: > > > > > > > Years ago Bill Moen had a set of "radioactive" MARC records with > unique > > > > tokens in all fields, to test Z39.50 retrieval. I don't know whether > > they > > > > were ever released anywhere, but I see the specs are here: > > > > > > > > http://digital.library.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metadc111015/m1/1/ > > > > > > > > Peter > > > > > > > > > > > > Peter Binkley > > > > Digital Initiatives Technology Librarian > > > > Information Technology Services > > > > [log in to unmask] > > > > > > > > 2-10K Cameron Library > > > > University of Alberta > > > > Edmonton, Alberta > > > > Canada T6G 2J8 > > > > > > > > phone 780-492-3743 > > > > fax 780-492-9243 > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, Dec 9, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Joshua Welker <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > I checked out the Eclipse option and was not able to get much use > out > > > of > > > > > it. > > > > > Maybe someone else will have better luck? It doesn't seem to align > > very > > > > > well > > > > > with a library use case. > > > > > > > > > > Josh Welker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > Behalf > > > Of > > > > > Ben > > > > > Companjen > > > > > Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 11:14 AM > > > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a > thing? > > > > > > > > > > Hi Josh, > > > > > > > > > > Before you start coding: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17106/how-to-generate-sample-xml-documen > > > > > ts-from-their-dtd-or-xsd suggests that Eclipse can generate XML > from > > an > > > > > DTD > > > > > or XSD file. First try with the EAC XSD shows I need to try other > > > > options, > > > > > but it's promising. > > > > > > > > > > (It's still an interesting problem to try to tackle yourself, of > > > course.) > > > > > > > > > > Ben > > > > > > > > > > On 09-12-13 17:59, "Joshua Welker" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >It's hard-coded to generate the specific elements. But your way > > sounds > > > > > >a lot cleaner, so I might try to do that instead :) It will be > more > > > > > >difficult initially but much easier once I start implementing > other > > > > > >metadata formats. > > > > > > > > > > > >Josh Welker > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- > > > > > >From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > > Behalf > > > Of > > > > > >Ben Companjen > > > > > >Sent: Monday, December 09, 2013 10:52 AM > > > > > >To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > >Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a > thing? > > > > > > > > > > > >Cool! > > > > > >My first thought on this topic was: give the program an XML > schema, > > > and > > > > > >generate possible documents with the correct datatypes etc. > > (Something > > > > > >like that must exist somewhere, right?) Does it happen to work > > > anything > > > > > >like that, or is it hardcoded to generate these specific elements? > > > > > > > > > > > >Ben > > > > > > > > > > > >On 09-12-13 17:27, "Joshua Welker" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > >>Challenge accepted. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>http://library.ucmo.edu/dev/metadata-generator.php > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Obviously in the prototype phase, but it works. Only MODS is > > > available > > > > > >>for now, and you can only select top-level elements (all child > > > > > >>elements of the top-level selections will be auto-generated). I > > will > > > > > >>try to expand it to more than just MODS. Admittedly, I know very > > > > > >>little about METS, so I will need some assistance if I am going > to > > > make > > > > > >>one of those. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>I'll eventually host this somewhere else once it's done, so don't > > > > > >>bookmark it. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Josh Welker > > > > > >>Information Technology Librarian > > > > > >>James C. Kirkpatrick Library > > > > > >>University of Central Missouri > > > > > >>Warrensburg, MO 64093 > > > > > >>JCKL 2260 > > > > > >>660.543.8022 > > > > > >> > > > > > >>-----Original Message----- > > > > > >>From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On > > Behalf > > > > > >>Of Kevin S. Clarke > > > > > >>Sent: Sunday, December 08, 2013 12:26 PM > > > > > >>To: [log in to unmask] > > > > > >>Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Lorem Ipsum metadata? Is there such a > > thing? > > > > > >> > > > > > >>When I first read this, I was imagining not having to give it > your > > > > > >>metadata but native support for most of our commonly used > metadata > > > > > >>records... so the interface is: "Give me 100 MODS records" and it > > > > > >>spits that out... You could get fancy and say, "Give me X number > of > > > > > >>METS records that wrap TIFFs and JPGs and that uses MODS, etc." > > > > > >>That's not as trivial as hooking into an lorem ipsum machine, but > > > it'd > > > > > >>be pretty cool, imho. > > > > > >> > > > > > >>Kevin > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >>On Sat, Dec 7, 2013 at 11:51 PM, Pottinger, Hardy J. < > > > > > >>[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > >> > > > > > >>> Hi, I asked this on Google Plus earlier today, but I figured > I'd > > > > > >>> better take this question here: my brain is trying to tell me > > that > > > > > >>> there's a service or app that makes "fake" metadata, kind of > like > > > > > >>> "Lorem Ipsum" but you feed it your fields and it gives you > > nonsense > > > > > >>> metadata back. But, it looks right enough for testing. > > Yesterday, I > > > > > >>> had to make up about 50 rows of fake metadata to test some code > > > that > > > > > >>> handles paging in a UI, and I had to make it all up by hand. > This > > > > > >>> hurts my soul. Someone please tell me such a service exists, > and > > > > > >>> link me to it, so I never have to do this again. Or else, I may > > > just > > > > > >>> make such a service, to save us all. But I don't want to go > > coding > > > > > >>> some new service if it already exists, because that sort of > thing > > > is > > > > > >>> for chumps. > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> > > > > > >>> -- > > > > > >>> HARDY POTTINGER <[log in to unmask]> University of > > Missouri > > > > > >>> Library Systems http://lso.umsystem.edu/~pottingerhj/ > > > > > >>> https://MOspace.umsystem.edu/ > > > > > >>> "Making things that are beautiful is real fun." --Lou Reed > > > > > >>> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > Bill Dueber > > Library Systems Programmer > > University of Michigan Library > > > >