Going in the other direction from cobol and fortran -Fair warning - Putting
on java evangelist hat- :) I wonder if it might be worth suggesting to the
authors that they change java into "JVM Languages" and cover off Java,
Scala, Groovy,...(others). We've had lots of success in the GoKB( and KB+(
Knowledge Base projects using groovy on grails - Essentially all the
pre-built libraries and enterprise gubbins of Java, but with a more
ruby-esq idiom making it much more readable / less verbose / more
expressive, and integrating nicely with all that existing enterprise
infrastructure to boot.

The use of embedded languages in JVMs (Including javascript) means that the
use of Domain Specific Languages are becoming more and more widespread
under JVMs, and this seems (To me) an area where there is some real
advantage to having practitioners with real coding skills - Maybe not the
hardcore systems development stuff but certainly ability to tune and
configure software. Expressing things like business rules in DSLs (EG How
to choose a supplier for an item, or how to deduplicate a title) gives
librarians an opportunity to tune the behaviour of systems dynamically
without system level changes.

Owen (Who's always lurking around here somewhere) wears a (technical)
librarians hat and often dives into KB+ and GoKB code base to give me an
idea of whats going wrong along with bug reports, sometimes with a fix
attached. I think this kind of collaboration, where systems librarians /
end user representatives are able to review and comment on code is
incredibly powerful and it's certainly served us well in our library

Just a thought :)


Ian Ibbotson
Knowledge Integration Ltd
35 Paradise Street, Sheffield. S3 8PZ
T: 0114 273 8271
M: 07968 794 630

On 25 March 2014 12:22, Miles Fidelman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Visual Basic is still going strong.
> Conspicuous by their absence: COBOL and Fortran - also still going strong.
> Miles Fidelman
> Roy Tennant wrote:
>> Basic? Seriously? I mean, the very first language I learned, in the early
>> 1980s, was BASIC. But come on. If you can find a person to write the
>> chapter I want to take them out behind the barn and, well, do them some
>> serious damage. Interpret that however you wish.
>> Roy
>> On Mon, Mar 24, 2014 at 8:08 PM, Ashley Blewer <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>  Hi all,
>>> Passing this along because it seems relevant to the interests of many on
>>> this list!
>>> See ya tomorrow or on the internet,
>>> - Ashley
>>> Fwd:
>>> This is a call for book chapters for  A Librarian’s Introduction to
>>> Programming Languages to be published  by ALA/ Neal-Schuman Publishing.
>>> This book will look at a variety of programming languages with the intent
>>> to familiarize readers with the reasons for using each language. The book
>>> will cover practical, real world examples to illustrate how a specific
>>> language can be used to enhance library services and resources.
>>> The target audience includes current practitioners, administrators,
>>> educators, and students.
>>> Some potential topics to be included in the book are below.
>>> ● Basic
>>> ● C#
>>> ● Java
>>> ● Javascript
>>> ● Perl
>>> ● Python
>>> ● Ruby
>>> We are also interested in other topics. For more information email the
>>> editors:
>>> Ron Brown [log in to unmask] and Beth Thomsett-Scott
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> Apologies for cross posting.
>>> Please feel free to share this announcement with other listservs and
>>> interested parties.
>>> --
>>> Ashley Blewer
>>> Fox Movietone Collection Project Cataloging Manager
>>> Moving Image Research Collections
>>> University of South Carolina
>>> 803.403.5013
> --
> In theory, there is no difference between theory and practice.
> In practice, there is.   .... Yogi Berra