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Yes, definitely get a job on a library service desk! "Just circulation" is great. Circ is often where patrons go first when they have a question, comment or complaint. As a result, circ people know the collection, what patrons are interested in, and what problems they have, probably better than anyone else in the library. (YMMV, but this is my experience.) With any service-desk job, you'll get a feel for what front-line staff deal with and how they work, and you'll be better equipped to understand and assist with their IT requests. Laura C. Henry, MLS Assistant Systems Librarian Beaufort County Library 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 Phone 843.255.6444 [log in to unmask] www.beaufortcountylibrary.org For Learning ♦ For Leisure ♦ For Life -----Original Message----- From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Sarah Thorngate Sent: Friday, May 30, 2014 1:27 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] College Question! Riley, As an undergrad, I studied music, religion, and English. I got my MLIS after realizing that, out of my three majors, not a single one was employable. If I'd known at the time that I'd enjoy teaching myself to code, I would have just done that and skipped the MLIS. As many people have mentioned, having a broad education is important for librarians. This is especially true if you want the option of working at a smaller school, where job descriptions can be quite broad. At a small school, you'll be much more employable if you have both tech skills and a subject specialization needed by that library. So a liberal arts degree can be a good choice, especially if you pick one that isn't well represented in libraries (i.e., not English or history). But for now I wouldn't worry about choosing a major. Go to a good school that feels like a good fit for you. Get a job at the library, even if it's just circulation. During the first year, take a CS course along with GE courses from a variety of disciplines, then choose your major(s) based on what interests you the most. Sarah On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:30 AM, craig boman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I have a BA in Music and the MLIS(union card), starting the Ph.D this fall. > Even though an MLIS was not required for my job, I find it incredibly > useful to know the language of librarians and be able to serve all the > librarians I support to the best of my abilities. Without the MLIS I would > feel less able to speak the same jargon/language. > > And along the same lines as everyone else, I would highly recommend getting > the most IT practical experience you can get with the most personal > connections you can get in libraries. Attend as many library conferences > you can as a student, while its still cheap. And once you get a part-time > student IT job, volunteer to do everything you can. Also don't > underestimate being a nice guy; having people like you in our customer > service/IT type employment is a highly prized commodity. > > Good luck, > Craig Boman, MLIS, BA > > > > On Fri, May 30, 2014 at 9:43 AM, scott bacon <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > I got a BA in Anthropology, made my millions, heh heh, then got my MLS > > about 10 years later. No, but Karen is right, I constantly use what I > > learned about cultural anthropology in my job as a librarian. > > > > My place of work is currently hiring a library systems administrator > > and we don’t require an MLS. The upside is that we offer tuition > > remission for a certain amount of credit hours per semester. So in > > theory someone could take this job with a bachelor’s in CS or IT or > > Info Science, learn while on the job, and also take classes to earn an > > MLS through an online degree program offered at another university we > > partner with in our state. So it definitely varies by institution. > > > > I’d echo the sentiments others have made in this thread by saying get > > to know what it’s like to work in a library by taking any library job > > you can find. I’ve known people to spend years and years getting > > degrees only to find that they didn’t like the job once they started > > working in the courtroom, cubicle, etc. > > > > And I believe the most important thing regarding valuation of > > employees is the ability and drive to learn new things. Your job > > duties will probably change significantly within a short amount of > > time after your hiring, whatever it is you end up doing, so the drive > > to learn will serve you well no matter what undergrad path you choose. > > > > _____ > > > > Scott Bacon > > Web Services and Emerging Technologies Librarian > > Coastal Carolina University > > > > On Thu, May 29, 2014 at 2:15 PM, Joshua Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Yes, experience trumps education completely in my experience as far as > > > developing skills in libraries and technology. Some employers will > demand > > > the degree, but it is really of secondary value to hands-on experience. > > > > > > One possibility would be talking to a systems librarian or anyone else > at > > > your university whose job interests you and explain to them that you > are > > > looking for some mentoring and experience. It is quite likely that they > > > could whip up a student worker position just for you. At least I know I > > > would if a student approached me that way. All the libraries where I've > > > worked have had fairly free reign with student worker hours. Chances > are > > you > > > are going to end up doing some kind of student work position anyway, so > > you > > > might as well use it learning something valuable rather than raking > > leaves > > > or cooking pizza. > > > > > > Josh Welker > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of > > > Fleming, Declan > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 1:05 PM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] College Question! > > > > > > Hi - I'm also an English undergrad. This was after miserably failing > > out of > > > a Math/CS program (although I learned a lot). The English degree > forced > > me > > > to write a lot while in college - a time when one's mind needs some > > > expanding lest it get caught in ruts. This helped my communication > > skills > > > immensely. Despite what Giarlo says. > > > > > > I also agree that a background in informatics is going to be really > > helpful > > > in the years to come. We are awash in data, yet little of it has the > > > semantics needed to automate the extraction of meaning. I think there > > are > > > going to be many years of smart people plowing meaning back into the > data > > > sets that we're struggling to put away at the bit level now, and I > think > > it > > > sounds like fun work. > > > > > > Another common thread I agree with, and one my kids have heard since > they > > > were in diapers, is GET A JOB! Especially in the area you think you're > > > interested in. You'll learn more practical things there than in any > > class. > > > You may suck at it at first, but hey, they're paying you anyway! If > you > > > like doing it, you'll get better, build your resume, and be better able > > to > > > see if it's something you want to do long term. > > > > > > Year later, after working in corporate IT for a while and getting sick > > of my > > > profession being treated like an expendable commodity, I went back and > > got > > > an MBA to better understand business - and learned that corporate IT is > > an > > > expendable commodity... I wasn't really OK with that, so I came back > to > > > academia to do more meaningful work for far less money ;) With the > MBA, > > I > > > was able to come back at a director level and influence change, so > that's > > > kinda cool. > > > > > > Good job getting ahead of this! You're a neat person and I appreciate > > what > > > you do for the community! > > > > > > Declan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of > > > Henry, Laura > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 5:51 AM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] College Question! > > > > > > My undergrad degree is in English, and it actually has come in handy at > > > times. Good communication is important, regardless of what you end up > > doing. > > > If I could do it again, I'd seriously consider informatics - but I > didn't > > > know it was a thing until I started library school. > > > http://www.soic.indiana.edu/informatics/ > > > > > > As far as IT, I learned a lot from the tech-support job I had right out > > of > > > college, and after that I'm self-taught. I imagine it's a steeper > > learning > > > curve than if I had some sort of tech degree. > > > > > > If you're going for an ML(I)S, major in whatever interests you. > > Librarians > > > come from all kinds of backgrounds. In my class there were a ton of > > English > > > and History degrees, but we also had people with degrees in > astrophysics, > > > soil science, and accounting. > > > > > > Laura C. Henry, MLS > > > Assistant Systems Librarian > > > Beaufort County Library > > > 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 > > > Phone 843.255.6444 [log in to unmask] > > > www.beaufortcountylibrary.org > > > For Learning ♦ For Leisure ♦ For Life > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of > > Amy > > > Drayer > > > Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 12:50 AM > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] College Question! > > > > > > Dear Riley et al: > > > > > > I was thinking the same thing as Coral. I have a humanities undergrad > > > degree; a computer science oriented degree would certainly have been > > > beneficial, especially with an emphasis on network and server > > > administration, or even web development depending on your interest (as > a > > > systems librarian I also managed the website and catalog). The > > > library-oriented education can wait until grad school. > > > > > > Honestly, I think we come from a variety of backgrounds. My liberal > arts > > > foundation works for me (I feel my education was well rounded in a way > a > > > science or IT degree may not have been), but I would definitely have > > wanted > > > some more technical classes such as I mentioned above if I had known I > > would > > > be in this field. > > > > > > In peace, > > > > > > Amy > > > > > > In peace, > > > > > > Amy M. Drayer, MLIS > > > Senior IT Specialist, Web Developer > > > [log in to unmask] > > > http://www.puzumaki.com > > > > > > > > > On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 11:24 PM, Coral Sheldon-Hess < > > [log in to unmask] > > >> wrote: > > > > > >> Riley, > > >> > > >> Whatever you do, don't major in library science as an undergrad. Maybe > > >> minor in it, along with some other major, if you want, but it's not > > >> useful by itself as an undergraduate degree--most libraries want > > >> librarians to have the MLIS. And what if you change your mind after a > > >> few years and don't want to get the masters? Do something you could > > >> get a career in--or work in, part time, to afford the MLIS. > > >> > > >> If you want to be a systems librarian, why not get a degree in systems > > >> engineering or IT? (Seriously, there are degrees in > > >> IT<http://www.ccsu.edu/page.cfm?p=332>now, what a world!) Computer > > >> science wouldn't hurt, if you don't mind theory, and you can get some > > >> good foundational stuff that will help with the information science > > >> part of "libraries and information science." > > >> > > >> The school where I got my MLIS had an "Information Science" department > > >> that was mostly IT, too. So, that's a possibility. > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Coral Sheldon-Hess > > >> http://sheldon-hess.org/coral > > >> @web_kunoichi > > >> > > >> > > >> On Wed, May 28, 2014 at 7:17 PM, Riley Childs > > >> <[log in to unmask] > > >> >wrote: > > >> > > >> > I was curious about the type of degrees people had. I am heading off > > >> > to college next year (class of 2015) and am trying to figure out > > >> > what to > > >> major > > >> > in. I want to be a systems librarian, but I can't tell what to major > > in! > > >> I > > >> > wanted to hear about what paths people took and how they ended up > > >> > where they are now. > > >> > > > >> > BTW Y'All at NC State need a better tour bus driver (not the c4l > > >> > tour, > > >> the > > >> > admissions tour) ;) the bus ride was like a rickety roller > coaster... > > >> 🎢 > > >> > > > >> > Also, if you know of any scholarships please let me know ;) you > > >> > would be my BFF :P > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > Riley Childs > > >> > Student > > >> > Asst. Head of IT Services > > >> > Charlotte United Christian Academy > > >> > (704) 497-2086 > > >> > RileyChilds.net > > >> > Sent from my Windows Phone, please excuse mistakes > > >> > > > >> > > > -- Sarah Thorngate Digital Services Librarian North Park University [log in to unmask] 773-244-4562