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Thank you for (and Janifer Gatenby) for this answer. My reading of this is that people who change their name when they marry don't get a new ISNI, but those who change it when they transition gender do, because that's a new identify. That's useful to know. cheers stuart On 06/19/2014 12:11 AM, Richard Wallis wrote: > Hi all, > > Seeing this thread I checked with the ISNI team and got the following > answer from Janifer Gatenby who asked me to post it on her behalf: > > SNI identifies “public identities”. The scope as stated in the standard > is > > > > “This International Standard specifies the International Standard name > identif*i*er (ISNI) for the identification of public identities of parties; > that is, the identities used publicly by parties involved throughout the > media content industries in the creation, production, management, and > content distribution chains.” > > > > The relevant definitions are: > > > > *3.1* > > *party* > > natural person or legal person, whether or not incorporated, or a group of > either > > *3.3* > > *public identity* > > Identity of a *party *(3.1) or a fictional character that is or was > presented to the public > > *3.4* > > *name* > > character string by which a *public identity *(3.3) is or was commonly > referenced > > > > A party may have multiple public identities and a public identity may have > multiple names (e.g. pseudonyms) > > > > ISNI data is available as linked data. There are currently 8 million ISNIs > assigned and 16 million links. > > > > Example: > > > > [image: <image001.png>] > > ~Richard. > > > On 16 June 2014 10:54, Ben Companjen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Hi Stuart, >> >> I don't have a copy of the official standard, but from the documents on >> the ISNI website I remember that there are name variations and 'public >> identities' (as the lemma on Wikipedia also uses). I'm not sure where the >> borderline is or who decides when different names are different identities. >> >> If it were up to me: pseudonyms are definitely different public >> identities, name changes after marriage probably not, name change after >> gender change could mean a different public identity. Different public >> identities get different ISNIs; the ISNI organisation says the ISNI system >> can keep track of connected public identities. >> >> Discussions about name variations or aliases are not new, of course. I >> remember the discussions about 'aliases' vs 'Artist Name Variations' that >> are/were happening on Discogs.com, e.g. 'is J Dilla an alias or a ANV of >> Jay Dee?' It appears the users on Discogs finally went with aliases, but >> VIAF put the names/identities together: http://viaf.org/viaf/32244000 - >> and there is no ISNI (yet). >> >> It gets more confusing when you look at Washington Irving who had several >> pseudonyms: they are just listed under one ISNI. Maybe because he is dead, >> or because all other databases already know and connected the pseudonyms >> to the birth name? (I just sent a comment asking about the record at >> http://isni.org/isni/0000000121370797 ) >> >> >> [Here goes the reference list…] >> >> Hope this helps :) >> >> Groeten van Ben >> >> On 15-06-14 23:11, "Stuart Yeates" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Could someone with access to the official text of ISO 27729:2012 tell me >>> whether an ISNI is a name identifier or an entity identifier? That is, >>> if someone changes their name (adopts a pseudonym, changes their name by >>> to marriage, transitions gender, etc), should they be assigned a new >>> identifier? >>> >>> If the answer is 'No' why is this called a 'name identifier'? >>> >>> Ideally someone with access to the official text would update the >>> article at >>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Name_Identifier >>> With a brief quote referenced to the standard with a page number. >>> >>> [The context of this is ORCID, which is being touted as an entity >>> identifier, while not being clear on whether it's a name or entity >>> identifier.] >>> >>> cheers >>> stuart >> > > >