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Hi all, Seeing this thread I checked with the ISNI team and got the following answer from Janifer Gatenby who asked me to post it on her behalf: SNI identifies “public identities”. The scope as stated in the standard is “This International Standard specifies the International Standard name identif*i*er (ISNI) for the identification of public identities of parties; that is, the identities used publicly by parties involved throughout the media content industries in the creation, production, management, and content distribution chains.” The relevant definitions are: *3.1* *party* natural person or legal person, whether or not incorporated, or a group of either *3.3* *public identity* Identity of a *party *(3.1) or a fictional character that is or was presented to the public *3.4* *name* character string by which a *public identity *(3.3) is or was commonly referenced A party may have multiple public identities and a public identity may have multiple names (e.g. pseudonyms) ISNI data is available as linked data. There are currently 8 million ISNIs assigned and 16 million links. Example: [image: <image001.png>] ~Richard. On 16 June 2014 10:54, Ben Companjen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Stuart, > > I don't have a copy of the official standard, but from the documents on > the ISNI website I remember that there are name variations and 'public > identities' (as the lemma on Wikipedia also uses). I'm not sure where the > borderline is or who decides when different names are different identities. > > If it were up to me: pseudonyms are definitely different public > identities, name changes after marriage probably not, name change after > gender change could mean a different public identity. Different public > identities get different ISNIs; the ISNI organisation says the ISNI system > can keep track of connected public identities. > > Discussions about name variations or aliases are not new, of course. I > remember the discussions about 'aliases' vs 'Artist Name Variations' that > are/were happening on Discogs.com, e.g. 'is J Dilla an alias or a ANV of > Jay Dee?' It appears the users on Discogs finally went with aliases, but > VIAF put the names/identities together: http://viaf.org/viaf/32244000 - > and there is no ISNI (yet). > > It gets more confusing when you look at Washington Irving who had several > pseudonyms: they are just listed under one ISNI. Maybe because he is dead, > or because all other databases already know and connected the pseudonyms > to the birth name? (I just sent a comment asking about the record at > http://isni.org/isni/0000000121370797 ) > > > [Here goes the reference list…] > > Hope this helps :) > > Groeten van Ben > > On 15-06-14 23:11, "Stuart Yeates" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >Could someone with access to the official text of ISO 27729:2012 tell me > >whether an ISNI is a name identifier or an entity identifier? That is, > >if someone changes their name (adopts a pseudonym, changes their name by > >to marriage, transitions gender, etc), should they be assigned a new > >identifier? > > > >If the answer is 'No' why is this called a 'name identifier'? > > > >Ideally someone with access to the official text would update the > >article at > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Standard_Name_Identifier > >With a brief quote referenced to the standard with a page number. > > > >[The context of this is ORCID, which is being touted as an entity > >identifier, while not being clear on whether it's a name or entity > >identifier.] > > > >cheers > >stuart > -- Richard Wallis Founder, Data Liberate http://dataliberate.com Tel: +44 (0)7767 886 005 Linkedin: http://www.linkedin.com/in/richardwallis Skype: richard.wallis1 Twitter: @rjw