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Spinning disk and data tape are great if you can afford them. If not, then you'll need to make some other choice, as we do, or not try to preserve the records at all. If you have a mandate to preserve (which we do) and no funding for storage (which we don't), then knowing which media is the most stable in the short run can be very helpful. Elizabeth Perkes Electronic Records Archivist Utah State Archives 346 South Rio Grande Salt Lake City, UT 84101 801-531-3852 [log in to unmask] On Thu, Aug 28, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Kara Van Malssen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi all, > > Feel free to disagree out there, but there has been longstanding agreement > amongst digital preservation practitioners that there is NO long term > archival storage media, nor will there likely ever be. We have entered an > era where content (or data) and carriers have much different lifespans and > are managed entirely differently. Storage media should be viewed as > temporary. In the digital age, we are not in the business of preserving > media, rather, it is the content that is the target of preservation. > Ensuring that optical discs will be playable in 5, 10, or 20 years due to > obsolescence, data rot, mishandling, and myriad other factors is not > something that archives will want to be dealing with moving forward. They > are highly unstable and their dependent technologies are quickly > disappearing (the computer I am typing on does not have an optical drive…). > Furthermore, it is very logistically challenging and time consuming to > migrate data off of these formats, or to do any automation with these > (unless you have a big disc library). Formats such as spinning disk and > data tape, for their short lifespans, offer much more resiliency, store > more data, and are much more accessible today, and easier to migrate off > of. Which you are going to have to do, period. > > The CBS story (and similar story on NPR > <http://www.npr.org/blogs/alltechconsidered/2014/08/18/340716269/how-long-do-cds-last-it-depends-but-definitely-not-forever> on > August 18) is primarily about dealing with legacy optical media. There are > a lot of these things from the 90s and 2000s that archives and libraries > have in their collections, and they will have to find a way to preserve the > contents held on these discs. What these stories don’t raise is that > storing new content on any kind of optical media is highly unadvisable. > > This is just my $0.02, but I assume that the NSDA is fairly unified on > this topic. Perhaps I’m wrong. In any case, I would not recommend gold DVDs > or any optical discs for that matter, for the long or short term. > > Thanks, > Kara > > > Kara Van Malssen > *AVPreserve* > 350 7th Ave., Suite 1605 > New York, NY 10001 > > office: 917-475-9630 x 2 > mobile: 917-842-9586 > > http://www.avpreserve.com > facebook.com/avpreserve > twitter.com/avpreserve > > > > > > > > On Aug 28, 2014, at 12:59 PM, Allison Munsell < > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi All, > > I’m assuming Archival Gold DVD’s are still the choice for longevity? > > *Allison Munsell* > Digitization Specialist, Rights & Reproduction > Albany Institute of History & Art > 125 Washington Avenue > Albany, NY 12210 > T: (518) 463-4478 ext. 424 > F: (518) 463-5506 > [log in to unmask] > www.albanyinstitute.org > > > *From:* The NDSA organization list [mailto:[log in to unmask] > <[log in to unmask]>] *On Behalf Of *Margaret Hedstrom > *Sent:* Thursday, August 28, 2014 12:12 PM > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Subject:* Re: [NDSA-ALL] Story on CBS News > > Hi all, > > Heard a similar story on NPR last week. > > > Great to see this in the popular media! > > > Except that it perpetuates the myth that not using labels or writing on > CD’s is the way to preserve digital information. Were it so simple. > > Margaret > > Margaret Hedstrom > Principal Investigator, Sustainable Environment - Actionable Data (SEAD) > Professor > School of Information, University of Michigan > (734) 647-3582 > > > > > On Aug 28, 2014, at 8:43 AM, Kimberly A. Schroeder <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > Good morning all! > > CBS This Morning is currently running a story on preserving CDs. They > were at the Library of Congress lab and the story was titled "Destroy to > Preserve". > > It is not on their website yet, but keep your eyes open! They gave some > helpful hints about not using labels and not writing on CDs. They also > showed how conservators are testing longevity via aging tests. > > Great to see this in the popular media! > > Best, > > > Kim Schroeder > Coordinator, Archival Program > Lecturer and Career Advisor > Wayne State University > School of Library and Information Science > Faculty Advisor for National Digital Stewardship Alliance > http://wsustudentndsa.wordpress.com/ > [log in to unmask] > 313 577-9783 > Career Advising Page > http://students.slis.wayne.edu/students/planning.php > > >