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I'm currently spending a chunk of time attempting to balance https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:New_Zealand_academics for recentism, gender imbalance and racial imbalance, creating >100 biographies so far. I can tell you that google scholar is a really crappy measure once you move outside the modern hard sciences, particularly in fields where the monograph is still revered. I can also tell you that there are people who have won the Hector Medal (for a long time the highest science prize in the country) who are in neither google scholar nor VIAF (and yes, we're a country hooked up to the feeder system for VIAF). As much as we like to think that libraries are central to academia and research, sometimes the world is not as it appears from our hallowed windows. [Anyone struggling to prove notability for a non-straight-white-male is welcome to ping me on wikipedia for help.] cheers stuart On 21/09/14 06:12, Karen Coyle wrote: > > I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group > of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able > self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion > works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered > notable, there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party > references, not provided by the individual in question. In terms of > accomplishments, for example for academics, there is a list of > "measures", albeit not measurable in the scientific sense. [1] > > Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, > RoyT, and for myself: > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAAAAAJ&hl=en > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > > The "h-index", while imprecise, is about as close as you get to > something one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an > indication. > > I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that > reputation is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a > critical eye and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we > already know, which is that men promote themselves in the workplace more > aggressively than women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly > find articles about men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my > blog post on the problems of notability for women. [2]) > > I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact > you offline with other thoughts. > > kc > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 > [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html > > On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: >> Friends: >> >> >> I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank >> you profusely for the help. >> >> For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in >> $1.25M defamation case because >> >> From our official statement >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) >> >> "Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, >> libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a >> ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog >> post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, >> outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the >> commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other >> forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. >> >> Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair >> and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither >> of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. >> Murphy’s reputation." >> >> Right now we need the following most importantly: >> >> 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have >> started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if >> you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who >> might -- please have them get in touch. >> >> 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes >> details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as >> many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those >> speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. >> >> 3. >> onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our >> mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if >> you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. >> >> We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. >> >> Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has >> made this all very much worth while. >> >> Best, >> Lisa >> >> >> >> >> >> >