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+1 Riley Childs Senior Charlotte United Christian Academy Library Services Administrator IT Services (704) 497-2086 rileychilds.net @rowdychildren ________________________________ From: Edward M. Corrado<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Sent: ý9/ý20/ý2014 7:21 PM To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Official #teamharpy Statement on the case of Joseph Hawley Murphy vs. nina de jesus and Lisa Rabey I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it, but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many notable librarians don't publish anything at all. Edward On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the items > you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never > heard of this "famous" librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different > conference circuit than he is.) > > I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group > of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able > self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion > works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered notable, > there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, > not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, > for example for academics, there is a list of "measures", albeit not > measurable in the scientific sense. [1] > > Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, RoyT, > and for myself: > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAAAAAJ&hl=en > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > > The "h-index", while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something > one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication. > > I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation > is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical eye > and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, which > is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than > women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about > men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the > problems of notability for women. [2]) > > I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact > you offline with other thoughts. > > kc > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 > [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html > > > On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: > >> Friends: >> >> >> I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank >> you profusely for the help. >> >> For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in >> $1.25M defamation case because >> >> From our official statement >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) >> >> "Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, >> libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a >> ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog >> post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, >> outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the >> commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other >> forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. >> >> Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair >> and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither >> of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. >> Murphy’s reputation." >> >> Right now we need the following most importantly: >> >> 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have >> started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if >> you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who >> might -- please have them get in touch. >> >> 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes >> details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as >> many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those >> speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. >> >> 3. >> onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our >> mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if >> you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. >> >> We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. >> >> Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has >> made this all very much worth while. >> >> Best, >> Lisa >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > -- > Karen Coyle > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net > m: +1-510-435-8234 > skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 >