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Perhaps this topic could be taken up in another thread? -Mike On Sep 20, 2014 4:22 PM, "Edward M. Corrado" <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > I don't know anything about the lawsuit or what has transpired to cause it, > but since when does an H-index score make one a notable librarian? Many > notable librarians don't publish anything at all. > > Edward > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 2:12 PM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Lisa, I hadn't know about this so I just spend some time reading the > items > > you list below. I was primarily motivated to do so because I had never > > heard of this "famous" librarian, Joe Murphy. (I must be in a different > > conference circuit than he is.) > > > > I also was interested because I've recently joined the hardworking group > > of Wikipedians who work to distinguish between notable persons and able > > self-promoters. In doing so, I've learned a lot about how self-promotion > > works, especially in social media. In Wikipedia, to be considered > notable, > > there needs to be some reliable proof - that is, third-party references, > > not provided by the individual in question. In terms of accomplishments, > > for example for academics, there is a list of "measures", albeit not > > measurable in the scientific sense. [1] > > > > Just for a lark, look at the Google scholar profiles for Joe Murphy, > RoyT, > > and for myself: > > > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=zW1lb04AAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=LJw73cAAAAAJ&hl=en > > http://scholar.google.com/citations?user=m4Tx73QAAAAJ&hl=en&oi=ao > > > > The "h-index", while imprecise, is about as close as you get to something > > one can cite as a measure. It's not a decision, but it is an indication. > > > > I put this forward not as proof of anything, but to offer that reputation > > is extremely hard to quantify, but should be looked at with a critical > eye > > and not taken for granted. It also fits in with what we already know, > which > > is that men promote themselves in the workplace more aggressively than > > women do. In fact, in the Wikipedia group, we mainly find articles about > > men whose notability is over-stated. (You can see my blog post on the > > problems of notability for women. [2]) > > > > I greatly admire your stand for free speech. Beyond this, I will contact > > you offline with other thoughts. > > > > kc > > [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Notability_%28academics%29 > > [2] http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2014/09/wpnotability-and-women.html > > > > > > On 9/20/14, 9:16 AM, Lisa Rabey wrote: > > > >> Friends: > >> > >> > >> I know many of you have already been boosting the signal, and we thank > >> you profusely for the help. > >> > >> For those who do not know, Joe Murphy is currently suing nina and I in > >> $1.25M defamation case because > >> > >> From our official statement > >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/why-are-we-being-sued/) > >> > >> "Mr. Murphy claims that Ms. Rabey “posted the following false, > >> libelous and highly damaging tweet accusing the plaintiff of being a > >> ‘sexual predator'”3. He further claims that Ms. de jesus wrote a blog > >> post that “makes additional false, libelous, highly damaging, > >> outrageous, malicious statements against the plaintiff alleging the > >> commission of sexual harassment and sexual abuse of women and other > >> forms of criminal and unlawful behaviour”4. > >> > >> Both Ms. Rabey and Ms. de jesus maintain that our comments are fair > >> and are truthful, which we intend to establish in our defense. Neither > >> of us made the claims maliciously nor with any intent to damage Mr. > >> Murphy’s reputation." > >> > >> Right now we need the following most importantly: > >> > >> 1. We have a call out for additional witnesses > >> (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com/call-for-witnesses/), which have > >> started to filter in more accounts of harrassment. Please, PLEASE, if > >> you know/seen/heard anything about the plaintiff, or know someone who > >> might -- please have them get in touch. > >> > >> 2. Share our site (http://teamharpy.wordpress.com) which includes > >> details of the case and updates. Please help us get the word out to as > >> many people as possible about the plaintiff's attempt to silence those > >> speaking up against sexual harassment and why you won't stand for it. > >> > >> 3. > >> onations: Many, many of you have asked to help donate to fund our > >> mounting legal costs. We will have a donation page up soon. Even if > >> you cannot help financially, please share across your social networks. > >> > >> We will not be silenced. We will not be shamed. > >> > >> Thank you again. The outpouring of support that has been happening has > >> made this all very much worth while. > >> > >> Best, > >> Lisa > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > -- > > Karen Coyle > > [log in to unmask] http://kcoyle.net > > m: +1-510-435-8234 > > skype: kcoylenet/+1-510-984-3600 > > >