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On Oct 19, 2014, at 3:20 PM, Francis Kayiwa wrote: [trimmed] > I'm willing to bet it would be much less effort to fix this Ubuntu problem dealing with the Ubuntu devs (I've found them reasonable to work with) than trying to heard the cats around "yet another debian fork" Another alternative would be to pick an existing OS, and make sure that all of the requisite packages are in their package manager. -Joe ps. 'OS for librarians' was never defined as being (1) for servers at libraries, (2) for librarian workstations, or (3) for public-use machines. Things that make a good client machine doesn't always make for a good server. And what makes a good personally managed desktop doesn't necessarily make it a good desktop when you're managing dozens or hundreds. (take MacOSX ... replacing bits to make it 'easier' for users, but harder to manage remotely in bulk)