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The issue isn’t so much pointing to the places and figuring out what goes where. There does not seem to be one canonical location for each morsel of information, and I don’t know if more guidelines or rules are going to solve the problem. Becky is on point about the wiki being problematic, particularly when folks who are not experienced with it, or registered to use it want to sign up for a newcomer dinner the day before. Cary > On Feb 17, 2015, at 1:37 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > So wouldn't this be solved by having one authoritative place to point to > all of the various pieces related to a particular conference? Perhaps all > we need to do is to be better about making sure that the Conference page on > code4lib.org <http://code4lib.org/> points to *everything* relating to that conference. That seems > achievable to me. > Roy > > On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:28 PM, Cary Gordon <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> I have no issue with Google Docs or Eventbrite. My point is that it is hard >> for me to find stuff when it is in so many systems, and I am used to it. I >> think that it is time to do something about it. >> >> On Tuesday, February 17, 2015, Becky Yoose <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>> Cary, >>> >>> I can speak to the signup for the Newcomer Dinner signup - previous years >>> had the signup on the wiki, but this year we decided to try something >>> different for the signup that didn't require an additional account to >> sign >>> up. This should have given Ryan a bit of a break with people requesting >>> wiki accounts last minute to sign up for the dinner. The link to the >> Google >>> Doc was posted in the wiki, under the Newcomer dinner entry. >> Communications >>> to the list and users have linked to the wiki page (though I do count one >>> communication to the group that I directly linked to the Google Doc). >>> >>> If folks did not like the Google Docs setup for the dinners this year, >>> please let me know and I can always bring the signups back to the wiki >> for >>> future dinners. Again, it was an experiment for this year :c) >>> >>> I cannot speak for the Eventbrite pages, but my understanding that >>> Eventbrite came with DLF handling registration finances this year. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Becky >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 17, 2015 at 1:05 PM, Cary Gordon <[log in to unmask] >>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>> >>>> This really speaks to the c4l who’s-in-charge-here / nobody is in >> charge >>> / >>>> take the ball and run with it zeitgeist. >>>> >>>> We have one person — Ryan Wick — who carries most of the load for the >>>> website and the wiki. I don’t think that he, or anyone else, takes >>>> responsibility for organizing the content. From here,it looks like >>>> everything is a mix of tradition and fire prevention. Accordingly, this >>>> year we had: >>>> >>>> — The conference web pages on code4lib.org <http://code4lib.org/> >>>> — The usual assortment of pages on wiki.code4lib.org <http://wiki.code4lib.org/> >>>> — The newcomer dinner page on Google Docs >>>> — Stuff on Eventbrite >>>> >>>> Resulting in a mix of the usual symptoms: >>>> >>>> — No single place to find stuff >>>> — Conflicting information >>>> — Not clear editorial policy >>>> >>>> So, what do we do, and who is this “we," anyhow? >>>> >>>> The conference organizers have control, in theory, but I think that >> they >>>> are understandably loath to mess with the traditional mix. There is no >>>> place for them to ask a question and get a single, cogent, >> authoritative >>>> answer. >>>> >>>> Code4lib itself isn’t really a thing, just an us, and we have been >> loath >>>> to form standing committees, although we have done that after a fashion >>> for >>>> scholarships and the Journal. I think that the time has come for a >>> Code4lib >>>> communications task force —I love that name — to address the structure >> of >>>> our public-facing resources. Any takers. >>>> >>>> In lieu of blessings from an executive structure, the task force can do >>>> something with pasta to confirm its authority. >>>> >>>> Any takers? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Cary >>>> >>>>> On Feb 13, 2015, at 12:53 PM, Heller, Margaret <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> <javascript:;>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I think Sarah is absolutely right that we should have updated the >>>> conference information page with information about streaming, as I >> don't >>>> think most people not attending the conference would think to look at >> the >>>> wiki. Even if everyone forgot to do it during the conference that's a >>> note >>>> to the future to remember to do it during the conference, and I've >> edited >>>> the page at http://code4lib.org/conference/2015 <http://code4lib.org/conference/2015> to give the link to >> the >>>> YouTube channel. >>>>> >>>>> And thanks so much video team! >>>>> >>>>> Margaret Heller >>>>> Digital Services Librarian >>>>> Loyola University Chicago >>>>> 773-508-2686 >>>>> >>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> <javascript:;>] On Behalf Of >>>> Sarah Weissman >>>>> Sent: Friday, February 13, 2015 2:18 PM >>>>> To: [log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> <javascript:;> >>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Code4LibCon video crew thanks >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 2:38 PM, Francis Kayiwa <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]> >>> <javascript:;>> >>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Planning these things is tough work with numerous moving parts. >> Could >>>>>> it have been posted once we were underway? Perhaps. That said there >>>>>> was 450 odd people who were there none of whom (the author included) >>>>>> thought to send a message on availability of video to this listserv. >>>>>> (I know for certain it was tweeted and re-tweeted) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> I see what you are saying. I realize that logistics are tricky. I >> would >>>> have probably missed a mailing list message if it had come last minute. >>> And >>>> I wasn't checking Twitter in a timely manner for updates on a >> conference >>> I >>>> wasn't attending and therefore wasn't all that aware of the exact >> timing >>>> of. (Perhaps this is a great time to bump that librarians list to a >> more >>>> visible position in my Twitter feed...) >>>>> >>>>> And I should say that I'm glad that there is video to watch at all >> and >>>> grateful to the volunteer videographers that made it happen. >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Cary Gordon >> The Cherry Hill Company >> http://chillco.com <http://chillco.com/>