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Firefox has an option in the Zoom menu called "Zoom Text Only," which causes Zoom to only affect text size. If you want to do an "optical" zoom in on a portion of a page (i.e. physically enlarge an area of the page without changing layout), using OS-level accessibility tools like Magnifier on Windows or the Zoom tool in OSX's accessibility settings (System Preferences->Accessibility) is probably the best solution, unless you find a third-party tool you really like. - Dave Mayo On Mon, Feb 8, 2016 at 12:10 PM, Cary Gordon <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > This is less a matter of site behavior that it is an issue with how the > zoom feature works. I agree that zoom should work as you describe, but it > won’t work that way if the browser is sending the wrong message regarding > the viewport. The viewport should not change when the page is zoomed in on. > I think that most users would expect that zooming would enlarge a protion > of the viewport, and that is what it should do. > > Cary > > Cary Gordon, MLS > The Cherry Hill Company > http://chillco.com > > > On Feb 8, 2016, at 8:25 AM, Katherine Deibel <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > >> When people zoom in (e.g., CTRL+), they aren't actually *zooming in* > insomuch as making the viewport smaller. The viewport is the keystone to > the media query magic that makes websites responsive. When it is smaller, > like for your phone, then it presents a different layout. > > > > Because yes, that is exactly what users are expecting when they use a > feature called zoom. Content and layout change too in other applications > like Word, PDF readers, etc. when you zoom in and out... oh wait... they > don't. > > > > Nope. I would argue that most users believe zoom works like zoom in > other applications and would not talk about the technical aspects of how > responsiveness and concepts like view ports. > > > > From a disability accessibility perspective, magnification is not purely > about text readability but making sure that all features of a > website---images, interactive widgets, text, etc.---are of use to the user. > Merely changing the font size is like putting out a fire in the kitchen > while the rest of the house is ablaze. > > > > > > > > Kate Deibel, PhD | Web Applications Specialist > > Information Technology Services > > University of Washington Libraries > > http://staff.washington.edu/deibel > > > > -- > > > > "When Thor shows up, it's always deus ex machina." > > > > On 2016-02-08 7:18 AM, Michael Schofield wrote: > >> Hi folks, > >> > >> Chiming in. Kyle asked > >> > >>> The reference librarians frequently zoom in on our homepage during > class instruction, and have noticed that after they zoom in a bit, our > homepage switches from desktop to the mobile layout. Is there any easy way > around this? In other words, is it possible to fix the site so that, if a > user is on a desktop/laptop, zooming in on the homepage will *not* flip the > user over to the mobile layout? > >> > >> This is actually the normal and expected behavior of responsive > websites. Otherwise breaking this zoom would make the content less > accessible, but perhaps a workaround would be to add a font size toggle in > the header of the website where users can increase or decrease just the > font size. Since I read you were using jQuery, check out this code that > does what I described really neatly: http://codepen.io/ianfarb/pen/sxbvk . > >> > >> When people zoom in (e.g., CTRL+), they aren't actually *zooming in* > insomuch as making the viewport smaller. The viewport is the keystone to > the media query magic that makes websites responsive. When it is smaller, > like for your phone, then it presents a different layout. > >> > >> Anyway, I really wanted to comment to warn against making changes like > this to your website because of library-specific use cases - e.g., someone, > staff or stakeholder, complains. These don't reflect the use cases of your > patronbase. > >> > >> The reference librarians can change the default font size of their > browsers. I would make them google that, rather than seek to break the > zoom. For starters, here is how you go about it in Chrome. > http://www.ehow.com/how_10035444_change-text-size-color-google.html > >> > >> Good question! > >> > >> Michael Schofield > >> www.libux.co / @schoeyfield / www.webforlibraries.com > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf > Of Katherine N. Deibel > >> Sent: Friday, February 5, 2016 2:43 PM > >> To: [log in to unmask] > >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Responsive website question > >> > >> This is actually a really good question as it gets into an interesting > >> tension between responsiveness and accessibility. Zooming is often a > >> useful means of addressing visual access issues, and one cannot presume > >> that a user will have external or in-browser apps for magnification. > >> > >> There is some literature on defining media queries using em/rem units > >> instead of pixels, which would address some of the issues. > >> > http://blog.cloudfour.com/the-ems-have-it-proportional-media-queries-ftw/ > >> https://css-tricks.com/zooming-squishes/ > >> > >> I can't say for certain about this, however, as I haven't tested it yet. > >> I have now added zooming vs responsiveness to my testing criteria. > >> > >> > >> Kate Deibel, PhD | Web Applications Specialist > >> Information Technology Services > >> University of Washington Libraries > >> http://staff.washington.edu/deibel > >> > >> -- > >> > >> "When Thor shows up, it's always deus ex machina." > >> > >> On 2/5/2016 10:40 AM, Kyle Breneman wrote: > >>> Happy Friday, everybody! > >>> > >>> Our library recently got a shiny new, responsive-esque website. > >>> <http://langsdale.ubalt.edu> The reference librarians frequently > zoom in > >>> on our homepage during class instruction, and have noticed that after > they > >>> zoom in a bit, our homepage switches from desktop to the mobile layout. > >>> > >>> Is there any easy way around this? In other words, is it possible to > fix > >>> the site so that, if a user is on a desktop/laptop, zooming in on the > >>> homepage will *not* flip the user over to the mobile layout? > >>> > >>> Thanks for your help! > >>> > >>> Kyle > >>> >