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Reading Paul's response, it occurs to me that I neglected to thank you for
for your work on this front, Eric. We all appreciate it.

I wish I had some good suggestions for the technical implementation of
option 2, but I don't. We're migrating servers here at KSU for various
reasons, and, with that work underway, I don't see our hosting the listserv
as workable into the near future.

Best regards,

*Jason Bengtson, MLIS, MA*
Assistant Director, IT Services
K-State Libraries
414 Hale Library
Manhattan, KS 66506
785-532-7450
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On Thu, Mar 24, 2016 at 8:35 AM, Shaun D. Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:

> In addition to the negatives you list for Google Groups, I also wanted to
> mention that some institutions only have partial integration with Google
> Apps, which don’t include Google Groups.  For example, Princeton faculty
> and staff are not able to fully use Google Groups features, such as
> starting new threads.  This bit me last year when I tried to participate in
> a Drupal Code Club.  I would be able to subscribe with my personal address,
> so there are workarounds, but just an FYI.
>
> -1 to Google Groups.
>
> -Shaun
>
> > On Mar 24, 2016, at 5:29 AM, Eric Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Alas, the Code4Lib mailing list software will most likely need to be
> migrated before the end of summer, and I’m proposing a number possible
> options for the lists continued existence.
> >
> > I have been managing the Code4Lib mailing list since its inception about
> twelve years ago. This work has been both a privilege and an honor. The
> list itself runs on top of the venerable LISTSERV application and is hosted
> by the University of Notre Dame. The list includes about 3,500 subscribers,
> and traffic very very rarely gets over fifty messages a day. But alas,
> University support for LISTSERV is going away, and I believe the University
> wants to migrate the whole kit and caboodle to Google Groups.
> >
> > Personally, I don’t like the idea of Code4Lib moving to Google Groups.
> Google knows enough about me (us), and I don’t feel the need for them to
> know more. Sure, moving to Google Groups includes a large convenience
> factor, but it also means we have less control over our own computing
> environment, let alone our data.
> >
> > So, what do we (I) do? I see three options:
> >
> >  0. Let the mailing list die — Not really an option, in my opinion
> >  1. Use Google Groups - Feasible, (probably) reliable, but with less
> control
> >  2. Host it ourselves - More difficult, more responsibility, all but
> absolute control
> >
> > Again, personally, I like Option #2, and I would probably be willing to
> host the list on my one of my computers, (and after a bit of DNS trickery)
> complete with a code4lib.org domain.
> >
> > What do y’all think? If we go with Option #2, then where might we host
> the list, who might do the work, and what software might we use?
> >
> > —
> > Eric Lease Morgan
> > Artist- And Librarian-At-Large
>