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I would also be interested to hear the results of this, Stuart. Not that it adds very much more to what everyone has already provided, but I remember bookmarking this page from Annotations work at Harvard: http://www.annotations.harvard.edu/icb/icb.do?keyword=k80243&pageid=icb.page466612 Seemed like a good primer, though it might not reflect the most current work. There was also this which I bookmarked around the same time: https://code.google.com/archive/p/annotation-ontology/ Again, not too sure if these are all abandoned projects, but at least gives a sense where things were at some point in the not too distant past. On Fri, Mar 18, 2016 at 4:04 AM, Erwin Verbruggen < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Hi Stuart, all, > > Very interested in the IIIF-developments as well. A colleague from the > University of Amsterdam recently did a post on Digital Film Historiography > < > > http://filmhistoryinthemaking.com/2016/03/16/update-digital-film-historiography-a-bibliography/ > > > and when I asked about the tools in reference to this conversation replied: > > Anvil was used by Adelheid Heftberger in the Digital Formalism project in > > Vienna with really good results. In addition, the French tool Lignes de > > temps developed by IRI at the Pompidou center has been used by several > film > > scholars and in education on several levels for video annotation, (it > also > > exists in English) and I think it might be relevant/useful for the > purposes > > described though it is not web-based from what I can see: > > > > http://www.iri.centrepompidou.fr/outils/lignes-de-temps/ > > > > Stuart, hope all this brings you somewhat further to your original goal - > would be curious to hear the results of your quest. > > Kind regards, > Erwin > > On Thu, Mar 17, 2016 at 5:31 AM, Tom Cramer <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Stuart, > > > > It may be useful to also cross-post this question to the IIIF-discuss > list > > [1]. There is a lot of interest in developing a IIIF-like approach to > > presenting video via a common API, and one that lends itself to web-based > > annotation. This would allow theoretically allow users to annotate videos > > with their tool of choice, and to be able to reuse / export the > annotations > > to any other tool. > > > > I expect this will be a topic at the next IIIF meetings, in New York City > > (May 10-13, 2016). [2] > > > > - Thomas > > > > > > [1] [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > [2] http://iiif.io/event/2016/newyork/ > > > > On Mar 16, 2016, at 8:33 PM, Greg Lindahl <[log in to unmask]<mailto: > > [log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > This may or may not be relevant to the "annotation" that the original > > poster had in mind, but the Internet Archive embedded video player > > takes subtitles in the common SubRip .srt format, which is apparently > > supported by many video players & subtitling programs. > > > > Instead of using this for closed captioning, you could use it for > > annotations. Each video can have multiple .srt files, with the user > > being able to pick which one is shown. I'm not 100% sure if our embed > > code allows the embedder to choose one .srt to be shown by default, > > that's where my knowledge ends. > > > > https://archive.org/help/video.php > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SubRip > > > > -- greg > > > > On Wed, Mar 16, 2016 at 02:06:46PM +0100, Gregory Markus wrote: > > Hi Stuart, > > > > A colleague of mine has just recently recommended Clipper ( > > http://blog.clippertube.com/index.php/clipper-prototype-3/) they're > > currently experimenting with it in the EUscreenXL project. > > > > Might be worth checking out for you as well. > > > > Curious as to what others will suggest as well. > > > > Cheers, > > > > greg > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 11:11 PM, Andrew Gordon <[log in to unmask] > > > > wrote: > > > > Thanks for sending out that document, Erwin. > > > > This is a really interesting topic and I feel like video annotation on > the > > web should be more of a thing. > > > > On top of what Erwin already provided (OVA looks particularly like A > > project that might be good to look at for your needs) there are also: > > > > http://mith.us/OACVideoAnnotator/ - which is a proof of concept using > the > > open annotation specification (http://www.openannotation.org/). The > > specification is format agnostic, intending annotatation of objects with > > text, media, web resources etc. - the genius.com folks seem to be > > involved. > > > > http://cowlog.org/ - pretty basic, but appears to get the job done and > is > > web based. > > > > There are scads of proprietary and open source desktop video > > coding/annotating software that I will spare you the burden of going > > through. Full disclosure, I work on a project whose sibling project is a > > desktop video coding tool for psychology researchers. > > > > From my vantage point, video annotation software generally seems to be > > developed around a specific set of user needs (a type of researcher and > > research subject, for example). More specific target audience gets a more > > robust set of tools targeted at those needs. > > > > The biggest issues come down to diversity of encoding for video and the > > ability for operating systems to support the playback of them. This said, > > the web has even more limitations around what video formats it will > > support, but if you control the source of the video, this might not be > such > > a big deal. > > > > It would really be great to see video annotation for specifically DH > > projects warm up. > > > > Have a look at all the resources and determine whether you think it might > > be useful just to roll your own annotator using HTML5, some sophisticated > > JS libraries for handling media, and hopefully wrapping in a standard > like > > the Open Annotation Data model (linked above). > > > > Would love to hear what others think/may have experienced. > > > > Drew > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 5:04 PM, Erwin Verbruggen < > > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > Dear Stuart, > > > > A few years ago we started an overview of video annotation projects and > > tools for the EUscreen network. We haven't been able to turn it into a > > state of the art document as of yet, but I'm hoping it would be useful > > for > > such an endeavour: > > > > > > > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1t6CIL8oQjkAtUe2LGInrUgxpNzj5k9s17Mihz6UotIM/edit?usp=sharing > > > > Kind regards, > > Erwin > > > > Erwin Verbruggen > > Project lead R&D > > > > Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision > > Media Parkboulevard 1, 1217 WE Hilversum | Postbus 1060, 1200 BB > > Hilversum | beeldengeluid.nl > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 15, 2016 at 9:38 PM, Stuart Snydman <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > I am doing some discovery for a DH project that, at its center, needs > > to > > annotate digital video (locally produced videos that will be hosted and > > streamed on the web in our local environment). We are still gathering > > requirements, but it needs to: > > > > > > * have a user friendly interface for creating annotations, better > > on > > the web but not an absolute requirement > > * create annotations at specific timestamps, or across spans of > > time, > > and have those annotations associated with regions of the video image. > > * annotations could include, text, audio, video, image, URL, etc. > > > > We’d prefer open source solutions that can be integrated into a web > > app, > > but aren’t fully closed to alternatives. We’d strongly prefer a > > solution > > that supports open standards for annotation or is at least capable of > > supporting open standards. > > > > I know there are many, many video annotation projects. What is the > > current state of the art in web-based video annotation making and > > viewing? > > > > Many thanks, > > > > Stu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > *Gregory Markus* > > > > Project Assistant > > > > *Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision* > > *Media Parkboulevard 1, 1217 WE Hilversum | Postbus 1060, 1200 BB > > Hilversum | * > > *beeldengeluid.nl* <http://www.beeldengeluid.nl/> > > *T* 0612350556 > > > > *Aanwezig:* - ma, di, wo, do, vr > > > > > ᐧ >