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> The inside will make decisions and the outside won’t understand and feel left out. This happens in all groups at a certain size, regardless of their structure or organizational mechanism. > Somebody will always come forward. It will just happen. That's a faith I wish I shared. The liability is simply too large at this point to count on the graces of a random fiduciary agent every year. Structure for liability does not immediately invoke the death-by-committee hierarchy C4L is trying to avoid. Angela Galvan Digital Resources and Systems Librarian | SUNY Geneseo [log in to unmask] On Tue, Jun 7, 2016 at 5:09 PM, Eric Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > On Jun 7, 2016, at 10:53 PM, Mike Giarlo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > >>> I'm also interested in investigating how to formalize Code4Lib as an > >>> entity, for all of the reasons listed earlier in the thread… > >> > >> -1 because I don’t think the benefits will outweigh the emotional and > bureaucratic expense. We already have enough rules. > > > > Can you say more about what you expect "the emotional and bureaucratic > expense" to be? > > Bureaucratic and emotional expenses include yet more committees and > politics. Things will happen increasingly slowly. Our community will be > less nimble and somewhat governed by outside forces. We will end up with > presidents, vice-presidents, secretaries, etc. Increasingly there will be > “inside” and “outside”. The inside will make decisions and the outside > won’t understand and feel left out. That is what happens when formalization > take place. > > The regional conferences are good things. I call them franchises. The > annual meeting does not have to be a big deal, and the smaller it is, the > less financial risk there will be. Somebody will always come forward. It > will just happen. > > — > Eric Lease Morgan >