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+1 to Stephen. Organization is a horridly complex concept. Any work
being done has to address the past and the future, because time keeps a
goin' on.

kc

On 10/11/17 2:34 PM, Stephen Hearn wrote:
> From the "OpenPIIR Product Scope and Principles," Final Version 2017-July
> 17-- "The complexity of describing affiliation information for researchers
> increases dramatically when going back in time, while at the same time the
> potential benefits of linking research outputs and their contributors to
> institutions decrease. For these reasons, the openPIIR should focus on
> active researchers and their affiliation at present and in the recent (~5
> years) past."
> 
> This is only half true. The complexity arises from the way organizations
> constantly alter their internal and external organizational structures and
> relationships. That's not something that a short retrospective horizon can
> dispense with, unless the intent is to describe only a snapshot of
> organizations. If the intent is to build a registry of lasting value, then
> policies for coping with the changes organizations undergo and the complex
> relationships those changes entail will need to be developed by the
> openPIIR initiative. Only the extent of the work is being limited by this
> statement, not its complexity.
> 
> Stephen Hearn (member of the OCLC Research Partners Task Group on
> Representing Organizations in ISNI
> <http://www.oclc.org/research/themes/research-collections/isni-organizations.html>
> )
> 
> 
> 
> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:40 PM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> 
>> Based on the intro:
>>
>>> Organizations/institutions are a key part of the scholarly communications
>> ecosystem. However, we lack an openly licensed, independently run
>> organizational identifier standard to use for common affiliation and
>> citation use cases.
>>
>> I would assume any organization at all that anyone with a scholarly
>> publication has an 'affiliation' with such that they'd list on the
>> publication they are an author of.
>>
>> The obvious use case of course is for organizations interested in tracking
>> their 'number of publications from affiliated scholars'.
>>
>> Jonathan
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 11, 2017 at 12:21 PM, Ed Summers <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi John,
>>>
>>>> On Oct 11, 2017, at 10:54 AM, John Chodacki <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Are you interested in serving as a the start-up host organziation?  Do
>>> you have organization data you are willing to contribute? Do you have
>> other
>>> resources that could be helpful for the project?  Do you have advice,
>>> suggestions, and feedback on creating a sustainable business model for
>> each
>>> phase of the Registry’s development?
>>>>
>>>> We'd like to hear from you!  Please help spread the word!
>>>
>>> What types of organizations are you hoping will be registered in this new
>>> system?
>>>
>>> //Ed
>>>
>>
> 
> 
> 

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