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Have a look at www.exploringsurreyspast.org.uk - If I were doing this
again, I'd do it as linked open data.  All the institutions involved -
museums, archives, libraries, the Historic Environment Record - keep their
own software, their own standard, but the public (who frankly don't care
where that postcard of 34 The High Street is looked after) can search
seamlessly across collections.

Having managed all three types of collections, (and now managing yet
another kind of cultural heritage data) I feel that a one-system solution
for managing multiple data types is probably the wrong way to go. The
compromises needed seem to result in either a system so complex that it
needs a dedicated team of data specialists  in each institution (which is
fine the for big Library, but when the Archives are one archivist and two
assistants, the system needs to be one that can be used with only basic
training, and only a few hours, one day a week).  Or it is so basic that it
_can_ be managed by someone who is also trying to manage a conservation
programme, outreach programme, etc. etc. In Surrey, we found a solution
that worked even before linked open data (many of our data sets were from
institutions that had only volunteers, no salaried staff, and institutions
with more than 5 members of staff were called 'large').

Best wishes,

Pat

On 9 November 2017 at 23:59, Ken Chad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Thanks Jonathan.
> Archives and museums do seem to play Cinderella to libraries. I did some
> work with one of the richest universities in the world and what they were
> spending on their archives management was tiny compared to the library
> system. However I'm not losing hope.These guys show promise.
> System Simulation based in London. http://www.ssl.co.uk/
>
> Soutron too has done some work on an integrated library and archive
> solution. https://www.soutron.com/products/soutron-combined-
> library-archive/
>
> I'd be interested if there are similar smaller companies in the US. The
> mainstream library system vendors don't seem to be especially interested.
> Ken
> Tel: +44 (0)7788727845
> Email: [log in to unmask]
> www.kenchadconsulting.com
>
> > On 9 Nov 2017, at 19:48, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > Sadly, I'm not sure anything like this actually feasibly exists or can be
> > constructed, with a low TCO for a small org. :(
> >
> >> On Thu, Nov 9, 2017 at 12:42 PM, Ken Chad <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> I'm  working with a learned society that is looking for a more
> integrated
> >> software solution for its rich library, archive and museum collections.
> I'd
> >> love to hear from anyone with real life experience of combining these
> >> elements into something like a coherent whole....in particular  in terms
> >> of:-
> >>
> >> .         Unified discovery across the record formats used by
> >> libraries/archives/museums -e.g. MARC/ISAD(G)-EAD/Spectrum. For example
> I
> >> have seen a small number of organisations that have managed to combine
> the
> >> display of bibliographic data (based on MARC) with hierarchical archive
> >> data
> >> (based on ISAD(G). I'd welcome any experience you are prepared to share
> >>
> >> .         A shared thesaurus/controlled vocabulary (MARC authority
> control
> >> is insufficient) across the three main collection types
> >> (library/archive/museum).
> >>
> >> .         Linked data type solutions to expose these (typically unique)
> >> materials on the web. (E.g. I've noted the Atlas Systems and Zepheira
> >> partnership announced last year)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> My sense at the moment that the resource/collection management functions
> >> will be much harder to integrate into a single solution-although there
> is
> >> some similarity between archives and museums (e.g. location management,
> >> conservation management, digitisation etc)
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All comments gratefully received!
> >>
> >> Ken
> >>
> >> Ken Chad Consulting Ltd  <http://www.kenchadconsuting.com/>
> >> http://www.kenchadconsulting.com Tel: +44(0)7788727845
> >>
> >> Twitter: @kenchad | Skype: kenchadconsulting |Linkedin:
> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/kenchad> www.linkedin.com/in/kenchad
> >>
> >> Researcher IDs:
> >>
> >> .         Orcid.org/0000-0001-5502-6898
> >>
> >> .         ResearchGate:  <https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ken_Chad
> >
> >> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Ken_Chad
> >>
> >>
> >>
>



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