Dear All: When it comes to browser support on the web, a previous library I worked at adhered to their county's guidelines to check the last 3 months of analytics and support all browsers and browser versions that had 1.5% or more traffic to the site. That may seem aggressive, but it was imperative that residents could access online services, within reason (the within reason being the 1.5%). In peace, Amy M. Drayer, MLIS User Interface Developer [log in to unmask] http://www.puzumaki.com On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:51 AM Pikas, Christina K. < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Our web design team for our external sites does all sorts of stuff to make > those sites accessible. > > This is for the IT department for the lab as a whole (~6,500-7,000 mostly > technical staff/researchers). So we have standard loads and software > distribution tools as well as policies (both written and enacted in code) > on what people can use. With that said, we're not as rigid as some of our > peers because of our research mission. I'm on a team to recommend what > we'll say is standard and supported, and what we'll support. > > Sounds like a few groups use the 2 previous versions guidance. I think we > also have FireFox Extended Release around. > > Christina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Tod Olson > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2018 10:43 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" > browser? > > Could you say something more about the scope of your question? Are you > concerned about what browsers are deployed on staff machines, or about > which browsers are supported by the applications you deploy for staff or > public use? > > Our campus supported web browser policy is here, for applications that we > deploy: > https://webservices.uchicago.edu/services/supported_browser_policy/. I > notice Edge is not included, but I'm uncertain how recently this has been > updated. > > Within the Library, we periodically look at our web logs to gather what we > can about actual use: trends in browsers, mobile use of different sites and > applications, that sort of thing. We diverge somewhat from the global web > stats in some ways, e.g. more Safari than the global average, less mobile > on some sites than others. > > One practical question is who is the audience for any site/application, > and who is building it? If your concern is about what browsers you support > for public-facing applications that you build or buy, you probably want to > target a broader array of web browsers. If you are talking about > applications that are staff-facing, maybe broad browser support isn't as > important and you can declare there are fewer options. But it would depend > on the particulars. > > -Tod > > Tod Olson <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > Systems Librarian > Interim Director for Integrated Library Systems University of Chicago > Library > > On Oct 16, 2018, at 8:31 AM, Pikas, Christina K. < > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Someone just forwarded me an article about Edge ( > https://gizmodo.com/9-reasons-it-might-be-time-to-switch-to-microsoft-edge-1829704122/amp > ) ... maybe it's not as bad as I thought? I think the era of an enterprise > browser is over, but then all the grinchy IT departments that put the fear > of using anything besides IE into people... sigh. > > Thanks all for feedback - any addition is definitely welcome! > Christina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Patricia Farnan > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 8:07 PM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" > browser? > > I recently read a very good (and relatable) rant on another mailing list > which began with the words: "A pox on all web browsers..." It was about the > experimental code & changing feature sets that you find with most browsers. > > In that discussion, someone said that Safari is probably the best, except > it also has problems when encountering Microsoft-centric websites. Of > course that's not helpful when your library only has Windows machines. > > We have to constantly troubleshoot for various browsers interacting with > various databases, websites etc. And of course it sometimes depends on > which operating systems the person is using which browser (and which > version) with. > > Our IT dept also mandated IE back in the day, but they now know that's not > a real solution. It's ironic though when you have some services that ONLY > work with IE ... while most services/platforms work better with any other > browser than IE. > > Thanks, > > Patricia Farnan | Application Administrator, Discovery Services > University Library | St Teresa's Library > > Telephone: +61 8 9433 0707 | Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto: > [log in to unmask]> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Kate Deibel > Sent: Monday, 15 October 2018 11:03 PM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" > browser? > > I can say that from the web accessibility perspective, the recommended > testing suite is Firefox for the browser and NVDA as the screen reader > (plus keyboard navigation testing in general). This is due to FF and NVDA > sticking the closest generally to the W3C specifications. > > Katherine Deibel | PhD > Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian > Syracuse University Libraries > T 315.443.7178 > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 > Syracuse University > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Pikas, > Christina K. > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 AM > To: [log in to unmask] > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" browser? > > Hi All, > In the olden days, my IT department more or less mandated IE as the only > supported browser. Everything had to work on IE and you could install > others but you were on your own. So then more and more people wanted Macs > and they weren't super supported until the director said he wanted a Mac. > > Anyway, years later, some of our tools work best on FF. Full SharePoint > functionality requires a browser that is essentially dead. We have an > enterprise video streaming tool that keeps promising to offer something > other than Flash... sigh. > > Do you all support the major browsers equally? FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari? > Do you primarily support one browser but allow others? > > If you are in an environment that has some tools that need one browser and > other tools that need another browser, how do you communicate that? Do you > alter the environment such that links open in the appropriate browser (can > be done in Chrome, I think?) > > Thanks in advance for any assistance, > > Christina > > ------ > Christina K. Pikas, BS, MLS, PhD > Librarian > The Johns Hopkins University Applied Physics Laboratory > Baltimore: 443.778.4812 > D.C.: 240.228.4812 > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Disclaimer > > The information contained in this communication from the sender is > confidential. 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