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Hi all, Recently I saw a discussion (somewhere. Can’t find it anymore ☹ ) about how Chrome was removed from one library’s computers because it appeared to be installing plugins or something without anyone requesting those plugins to be installed? I may be misremembering exactly what was discussed, but since then I’ve seen other mentions of Chrome’s latest versions “getting creepy” (I’m told this is especially so for version 69). If anyone knows the discussion I’m talking about I would love a reminder / refresher because I want to discuss it with my team / our IT dept possibly. I did notice myself recently when my computer was struggling that Chrome used a hell of a lot of bandwidth compared to basically everything else that was running at the time. Thanks, Patricia Farnan | Application Administrator, Discovery Services University Library | St Teresa’s Library Telephone: +61 8 9433 0707 | Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Lolis, John Sent: Tuesday, 16 October 2018 11:33 PM To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" browser? Is there anyone else out there besides me who refuses to have Chrome installed on library computers? All it took was for me to see the majority of the network bandwidth pie chart heading to google.com, not to mention the scheduled tasks that no doubt contribute to that. I now have Vivaldi installed instead. It's a good alternative for those staff who can't do without their Chrome extensions. Of course, I also have Firefox and IE available to them as well as to the patrons. Public computers have Windows 10, so patrons can also use Edge. Btw, for my web development work, I have my hosts file configured to have whiteplainslibrary.org point to our dev/test server's address, and I use Firefox without a proxy setting to connect to it. Meanwhile, in Vivaldi I have a proxy specified, and the proxy only knows of the live server's address. That effectively allows me to connect to the test server with Firefox, and still be able to connect to the live server with Vivaldi, both going to whiteplainslibrary.org. The trick is in not mixing up the two when making changes. Different WordPress admin color themes help in that regard. John Lolis Coordinator of Computer Systems <https://whiteplainslibrary.org/<https://whiteplainslibrary.org/>> 100 Martine Avenue White Plains, NY 10601 tel: 1.914.422.1497 fax: 1.914.422.1452 https://whiteplainslibrary.org/<https://whiteplainslibrary.org/> *When you think about it, *all* security is ultimately security by ignorance.* On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 9:32 AM Pikas, Christina K. < [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > Someone just forwarded me an article about Edge ( > https://gizmodo.com/9-reasons-it-might-be-time-to-switch-to-microsoft-edge-1829704122/amp<https://gizmodo.com/9-reasons-it-might-be-time-to-switch-to-microsoft-edge-1829704122/amp> > ) ... maybe it's not as bad as I thought? I think the era of an enterprise > browser is over, but then all the grinchy IT departments that put the fear > of using anything besides IE into people... sigh. > > Thanks all for feedback - any addition is definitely welcome! > Christina > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Patricia > Farnan > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 8:07 PM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" > browser? > > I recently read a very good (and relatable) rant on another mailing list > which began with the words: "A pox on all web browsers..." It was about the > experimental code & changing feature sets that you find with most browsers. > > In that discussion, someone said that Safari is probably the best, except > it also has problems when encountering Microsoft-centric websites. Of > course that's not helpful when your library only has Windows machines. > > We have to constantly troubleshoot for various browsers interacting with > various databases, websites etc. And of course it sometimes depends on > which operating systems the person is using which browser (and which > version) with. > > Our IT dept also mandated IE back in the day, but they now know that's not > a real solution. It's ironic though when you have some services that ONLY > work with IE ... while most services/platforms work better with any other > browser than IE. > > Thanks, > > Patricia Farnan | Application Administrator, Discovery Services > University Library | St Teresa's Library > > Telephone: +61 8 9433 0707 | Email: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of > Kate Deibel > Sent: Monday, 15 October 2018 11:03 PM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" > browser? > > I can say that from the web accessibility perspective, the recommended > testing suite is Firefox for the browser and NVDA as the screen reader > (plus keyboard navigation testing in general). This is due to FF and NVDA > sticking the closest generally to the W3C specifications. > > Katherine Deibel | PhD > Inclusion & Accessibility Librarian > Syracuse University Libraries > T 315.443.7178 > [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > 222 Waverly Ave., Syracuse, NY 13244 > Syracuse University > > -----Original Message----- > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]>> On Behalf Of Pikas, > Christina K. > Sent: Monday, October 15, 2018 11:00 AM > To: [log in to unmask]<mailto:[log in to unmask]> > Subject: [CODE4LIB] Default, preferred, or supported "enterprise" browser? > > Hi All, > In the olden days, my IT department more or less mandated IE as the only > supported browser. Everything had to work on IE and you could install > others but you were on your own. So then more and more people wanted Macs > and they weren't super supported until the director said he wanted a Mac. > > Anyway, years later, some of our tools work best on FF. Full SharePoint > functionality requires a browser that is essentially dead. We have an > enterprise video streaming tool that keeps promising to offer something > other than Flash... sigh. > > Do you all support the major browsers equally? FF, Chrome, Edge, Safari? > Do you primarily support one browser but allow others? > > If you are in an environment that has some tools that need one browser and > other tools that need another browser, how do you communicate that? Do you > alter the environment such that links open in the appropriate browser (can > be done in Chrome, I think?) > > Thanks in advance for any assistance, > > Christina > > ------ > Christina K. 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