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Code4Lib has always been home both to technical and social conversations (and everything in between). The mailing list blurb may not effectively convey this, but this has been true for over 12-13 years in my experience. Discussions of what Code4Libbers can do to increase awareness of sexual harassment in our world is *not* off-topic. What is off-topic, and off-base, is some of the inappropriate ad hominem remarks in this thread that may have a chilling effect on the discussion. We all play a part in making Code4Lib a welcoming place, and I'm sorry that not all of us have lived up to that. -- Mike Giarlo Software Engineer & Architect Digital Library Systems & Services Stanford Libraries ________________________________ From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Edward Almasy <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 15:09 To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:03pm, Monica Westin <[log in to unmask]> quoted: > *This mailing list provides a forum for discussion all things relating to programming code for libraries. This is a place to discuss particular programming languages, but also provides a place to discuss the issues of programming in libraries in general* I think discussion about sexual harassment issues is crucial, in the library world and throughout our society, but it seems to me a stretch to construe the above as having been intended to include it. One solution, used by some other communities, would be to create a new "sister" list, named something like CODE4LIB-COMMUNITY, for discussion of non-technical topics important to the Code4Lib community. Ed -- Edward Almasy <[log in to unmask]> Director • Internet Scout Research Group Computer Sciences Dept • U of Wisconsin - Madison 1210 W Dayton St • Madison WI 53706 • 3HCV+J6 608-262-6606 (voice) • 608-265-9296 (fax)