A couple of people have mentioned that this project needs approval by an IRB. I do not believe this is true---correct me if I'm wrong, but I think Sunni would have needed to be more systematic in her investigation and have included a real research question, not just an intention to raise awareness. Sarah On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:04 AM Jenn C <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > As also not official, let me say that the vagueness of identity, lack of > research oversight and inclusion of transphobia in your "piece" makes every > concern about this article legitimate. > > I do not apologize. > > On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 8:22 AM Craig Boman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > Dear Sunni, > > > > On behalf of the leaderless Code4lib community, for which I have no > > authority to represent, please allow us to apologize. In my short time > > participating in Code4lib it has been clear to me that Code4lib has been > a > > place to talk about gender issues in library coding communities > > <https://code4lib.org/c4l18-keynote-statement/>. It has been a place to > > discuss diversity and inclusion in library coding communities > > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nWLSbIj4JjA>. As others have stated, I > > would like to reiterate that Code4lib is certainly a place to talk about > > sexual harassment within our technology perspectives; we are not sweeping > > this under the rug. Although this was not your first time posting to our > > listserv, we welcome and encourage your ongoing participation. We may not > > always get it right, but we hope to learn. > > > > Sincerely, > > Craig > > > > (he/him/his) > > Craig Boman, MLIS (Ph.D. student) > > Discovery Services Librarian and > > Assistant Librarian > > Miami University Libraries > > > > 302 King Library > > [log in to unmask] > > ORCID ID: 0000-0001-7511-4078 > > > > "There is no education as that which comes from participation in the > > constant stream of events." - Jane Addams (1902, p. 93) Craig Bowman > Craig > > Bauman > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 7:38 PM Mike Giarlo <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > > Code4Lib has always been home both to technical and social > conversations > > > (and everything in between). The mailing list blurb may not effectively > > > convey this, but this has been true for over 12-13 years in my > > experience. > > > Discussions of what Code4Libbers can do to increase awareness of sexual > > > harassment in our world is *not* off-topic. > > > > > > What is off-topic, and off-base, is some of the inappropriate ad > hominem > > > remarks in this thread that may have a chilling effect on the > discussion. > > > We all play a part in making Code4Lib a welcoming place, and I'm sorry > > that > > > not all of us have lived up to that. > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Mike Giarlo > > > > > > Software Engineer & Architect > > > > > > Digital Library Systems & Services > > > > > > Stanford Libraries > > > > > > ________________________________ > > > From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> on behalf of Edward > > > Almasy <[log in to unmask]> > > > Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 15:09 > > > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] > > > > > > On Jul 2, 2019, at 1:03pm, Monica Westin <[log in to unmask]> > > > quoted: > > > > *This mailing list provides a forum for discussion all things > relating > > > to programming code for libraries. This is a place to discuss > particular > > > programming languages, but also provides a place to discuss the issues > of > > > programming in libraries in general* > > > > > > I think discussion about sexual harassment issues is crucial, in the > > > library world and throughout our society, but it seems to me a stretch > to > > > construe the above as having been intended to include it. > > > > > > One solution, used by some other communities, would be to create a new > > > "sister" list, named something like CODE4LIB-COMMUNITY, for discussion > of > > > non-technical topics important to the Code4Lib community. > > > > > > Ed > > > > > > > > > -- > > > Edward Almasy <[log in to unmask]> > > > Director • Internet Scout Research Group > > > Computer Sciences Dept • U of Wisconsin - Madison > > > 1210 W Dayton St • Madison WI 53706 • 3HCV+J6 > > > 608-262-6606 (voice) • 608-265-9296 (fax) > > > > > >