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Hi Natasha, I know many people are ready to see this thread stop, but do you know of a better forum? code4lib is pretty much the main library-IT list I belong to. If there’s another place where these important issues can be discussed, I’d be happy to join that too. Thanks in advance for any recommendation. Chris Chris Hoffman, Ph.D. Associate Director, Research IT Program Director, Research Data Management <http://researchdata.berkeley.edu/> & Informatics Services UC Berkeley [log in to unmask] 510-256-9643 > On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Natasha Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi Josh, > > Great question. I won't speak for the entire group, only for myself, but > other than being entirely off-topic, there are at least a few of us who > have expressed concerns regarding the mix of the subject matter and the > lack of transparency surrounding the author. The initial request for survey > participants and subsequent article did not follow certain journalistic > protocols/standards (and frankly looked like spam to me), which led to some > distrust of the motives of the individual requesting this sensitive > information. I have spoken to Sunni directly off-list about my concerns so > I won't rehash what we discussed there, but suffice it to say, there are > ways to handle sensitive subjects and this is not one of them. This is an > important topic, and one that should be addressed with great care. I think > they appear to be well-meaning but it's not, I think, the best forum for > such discussions. I hope this helps. > > Best, > > Natasha > > --- > Natasha Allen (she/her) > System and Fulfillment Coordinator, University Library > San José State University > 1 Washington Square > San José , CA 95192 > [log in to unmask] > 408-808-2655 > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:54 AM Josh Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> I am actually quite confused about why the Code4Lib community is acting so >> annoyed by this topic. I am totally ignorant of the background here. Is the >> frustration with the topic itself or with this person? >> >> Joshua Welker >> Library Systems and Discovery Coordinator >> James C. Kirkpatrick Library >> University of Central Missouri >> Warrensburg, MO 64093 >> JCKL 2260 >> 660.543.8022 >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:48 AM Forrest, Stuart <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >> >>> Agreed! >>> >>> Stuart Forrest PhD, Library IT Manager/Analyst >>> Beaufort County Library System >>> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 >>> 843 255 6450 >>> [log in to unmask] >>> beaufortcountylibrary.org >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Andrew L >>> Hickner >>> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:43 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] >>> >>> This entire thread is completely off-topic and becoming a nuisance to the >>> community. >>> >>> >>> >>> Andy Hickner, MSI >>> Health Sciences Librarian >>> Seton Hall University | Interprofessional Health Sciences Campus >>> [log in to unmask] | 1-973-542-6973 >>> >>> >> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flibrary.shu.edu%2fihs&c=E,1,ijKkfXu9kMXX98xSfNwG_SOgresTUy06uscOzPTNeY5Q1MNYt1iHNXDLKdrT7MVwoiDet9tnx3h1UmZOm9qWoV_6OzfAz8RuRay7eIdyG4iwUDoPHQyzVQA,&typo=1 >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of S B >>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:00 PM >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] >>> >>> Yes, props to ALA about recognizing Dewey. >>> >>> You don’t have to agree with my petition or think of it as useful. >>> >>> In the spirit of talking strategies, what do you see as effective >>> strategies for the library profession making sexual harassment awareness >> a >>> top priority? >>> >>> Sunni >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> >>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>>> >>>> In the spirit of fixing actual things that need to be fixed, I'd like >>>> to point out the really positive news out of the ALA about them >>>> recognising Dewey >>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>>> theguardian.com%2Fbooks%2F2019%2Fjun%2F27%2Fmelvil-deweys-name-strippe >>>> d-from-top-librarian-award&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU >>>> %7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075 >>>> %7C1&sdata=9l4mqVuOxapKNIpP5%2BORFY3OHCSjEt09SiPunDDxhKI%3D&re >>>> served=0 and AAAS about them recognising issues with current fellows >>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>>> the-scientist.com%2Fnews-opinion%2Fpetition-asks-aaas-to-remove-fellow >>>> s-with-sexual-harassment-records-64488&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickn >>>> er%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97c >>>> a13261d71075%7C1&sdata=iajDSIBWzDEamZJRz8Tlu79wmVKQWqRtzY733MPxq%2 >>>> BU%3D&reserved=0 Both of these are the result of concerted >>>> campaigns over several years by groups of named individuals with >>>> clear, concrete, goals in mind and explicit strategies of how to get >>>> there. >>>> >>>> Without a doubt things need to improve in libraries, but I don't see >>>> petitions such as this an effective method of improving them. >>>> >>>> If there is anyone wanting to discuss strategies, my emails are open. >>>> Publicising locally the two recent advances mentioned above is going >>>> to be on my to-do list. >>>> >>>> cheers >>>> stuart >>>> -- >>>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky >>>> >>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 23:12, Eric Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]> >> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:13 PM, S B < >>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Dear Library Community, >>>>>> >>>>>> I have always known the library community to be forward thinking and >>> helpful. Through this journey of writing about sexual harassment in >>> libraries, I have become concerned about the lack of sexual harassment >>> awareness trainings and open and positive dialogue on the subject. Yes, >>> articles have been written. Yes, some individual libraries as well as >> some >>> systems and associations are doing training and having conversation. >> That >>> is great and should not be overlooked. In many cases, though, it is the >>> exact opposite. >>>>>> >>>>>> In a profession that is so progressive, why does sexual harassment >>> awareness seem to take a back seat? >>>>>> >>>>>> I created a petition about sexual harassment awareness in libraries. >>> Would you consider signing and sharing? You don’t have to be in the >> library >>> profession to sign. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you for your consideration of this request. Many Thanks! >>>>>> >>>>>> Petition Link: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchn >>>>>> g.it%2FPzRB4BQp5f&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30 >>>>>> d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075%7C1& >>>>>> amp;sdata=uCY0g6DateauqIHdB5FC9RxVqbmLeVEiHTERLXu%2FJd4%3D&reser >>>>>> ved=0 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> If the sorts of notes above persist, then I will look into their >>>>> whereabouts & see if we can get rid of them. Now back to our regular >>>>> programming. --Eric Morgan, List Owner >>> ** WARNING: This email originated from outside of Seton Hall University. >>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender >> and >>> know the content is safe. ** >>> >>> >>