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I will be starting a separate one. It has been in the works. More coming in the next few days if not sooner. Sent from my iPhone > On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Chris Hoffman <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Hi Natasha, > > I know many people are ready to see this thread stop, but do you know of a better forum? code4lib is pretty much the main library-IT list I belong to. If there’s another place where these important issues can be discussed, I’d be happy to join that too. Thanks in advance for any recommendation. > > Chris > > Chris Hoffman, Ph.D. > Associate Director, Research IT > Program Director, Research Data Management <http://researchdata.berkeley.edu/> & Informatics Services > UC Berkeley > [log in to unmask] > 510-256-9643 > >> On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Natasha Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >> Hi Josh, >> >> Great question. I won't speak for the entire group, only for myself, but >> other than being entirely off-topic, there are at least a few of us who >> have expressed concerns regarding the mix of the subject matter and the >> lack of transparency surrounding the author. The initial request for survey >> participants and subsequent article did not follow certain journalistic >> protocols/standards (and frankly looked like spam to me), which led to some >> distrust of the motives of the individual requesting this sensitive >> information. I have spoken to Sunni directly off-list about my concerns so >> I won't rehash what we discussed there, but suffice it to say, there are >> ways to handle sensitive subjects and this is not one of them. This is an >> important topic, and one that should be addressed with great care. I think >> they appear to be well-meaning but it's not, I think, the best forum for >> such discussions. I hope this helps. >> >> Best, >> >> Natasha >> >> --- >> Natasha Allen (she/her) >> System and Fulfillment Coordinator, University Library >> San José State University >> 1 Washington Square >> San José , CA 95192 >> [log in to unmask] >> 408-808-2655 >> >> >> >> >> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:54 AM Josh Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> I am actually quite confused about why the Code4Lib community is acting so >>> annoyed by this topic. I am totally ignorant of the background here. Is the >>> frustration with the topic itself or with this person? >>> >>> Joshua Welker >>> Library Systems and Discovery Coordinator >>> James C. Kirkpatrick Library >>> University of Central Missouri >>> Warrensburg, MO 64093 >>> JCKL 2260 >>> 660.543.8022 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:48 AM Forrest, Stuart <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> Agreed! >>>> >>>> Stuart Forrest PhD, Library IT Manager/Analyst >>>> Beaufort County Library System >>>> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902 >>>> 843 255 6450 >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> beaufortcountylibrary.org >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Andrew L >>>> Hickner >>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:43 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] >>>> >>>> This entire thread is completely off-topic and becoming a nuisance to the >>>> community. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Andy Hickner, MSI >>>> Health Sciences Librarian >>>> Seton Hall University | Interprofessional Health Sciences Campus >>>> [log in to unmask] | 1-973-542-6973 >>>> >>>> >>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flibrary.shu.edu%2fihs&c=E,1,ijKkfXu9kMXX98xSfNwG_SOgresTUy06uscOzPTNeY5Q1MNYt1iHNXDLKdrT7MVwoiDet9tnx3h1UmZOm9qWoV_6OzfAz8RuRay7eIdyG4iwUDoPHQyzVQA,&typo=1 >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of S B >>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:00 PM >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia] >>>> >>>> Yes, props to ALA about recognizing Dewey. >>>> >>>> You don’t have to agree with my petition or think of it as useful. >>>> >>>> In the spirit of talking strategies, what do you see as effective >>>> strategies for the library profession making sexual harassment awareness >>> a >>>> top priority? >>>> >>>> Sunni >>>> >>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>> >>>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> In the spirit of fixing actual things that need to be fixed, I'd like >>>>> to point out the really positive news out of the ALA about them >>>>> recognising Dewey >>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>>>> theguardian.com%2Fbooks%2F2019%2Fjun%2F27%2Fmelvil-deweys-name-strippe >>>>> d-from-top-librarian-award&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU >>>>> %7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075 >>>>> %7C1&sdata=9l4mqVuOxapKNIpP5%2BORFY3OHCSjEt09SiPunDDxhKI%3D&re >>>>> served=0 and AAAS about them recognising issues with current fellows >>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww. >>>>> the-scientist.com%2Fnews-opinion%2Fpetition-asks-aaas-to-remove-fellow >>>>> s-with-sexual-harassment-records-64488&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickn >>>>> er%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97c >>>>> a13261d71075%7C1&sdata=iajDSIBWzDEamZJRz8Tlu79wmVKQWqRtzY733MPxq%2 >>>>> BU%3D&reserved=0 Both of these are the result of concerted >>>>> campaigns over several years by groups of named individuals with >>>>> clear, concrete, goals in mind and explicit strategies of how to get >>>>> there. >>>>> >>>>> Without a doubt things need to improve in libraries, but I don't see >>>>> petitions such as this an effective method of improving them. >>>>> >>>>> If there is anyone wanting to discuss strategies, my emails are open. >>>>> Publicising locally the two recent advances mentioned above is going >>>>> to be on my to-do list. >>>>> >>>>> cheers >>>>> stuart >>>>> -- >>>>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky >>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 23:12, Eric Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:13 PM, S B < >>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Library Community, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I have always known the library community to be forward thinking and >>>> helpful. Through this journey of writing about sexual harassment in >>>> libraries, I have become concerned about the lack of sexual harassment >>>> awareness trainings and open and positive dialogue on the subject. Yes, >>>> articles have been written. Yes, some individual libraries as well as >>> some >>>> systems and associations are doing training and having conversation. >>> That >>>> is great and should not be overlooked. In many cases, though, it is the >>>> exact opposite. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In a profession that is so progressive, why does sexual harassment >>>> awareness seem to take a back seat? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I created a petition about sexual harassment awareness in libraries. >>>> Would you consider signing and sharing? You don’t have to be in the >>> library >>>> profession to sign. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you for your consideration of this request. Many Thanks! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Petition Link: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchn >>>>>>> g.it%2FPzRB4BQp5f&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30 >>>>>>> d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075%7C1& >>>>>>> amp;sdata=uCY0g6DateauqIHdB5FC9RxVqbmLeVEiHTERLXu%2FJd4%3D&reser >>>>>>> ved=0 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> If the sorts of notes above persist, then I will look into their >>>>>> whereabouts & see if we can get rid of them. Now back to our regular >>>>>> programming. --Eric Morgan, List Owner >>>> ** WARNING: This email originated from outside of Seton Hall University. >>>> Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender >>> and >>>> know the content is safe. ** >>>> >>>> >>>