Ross Singer wrote:
>
> Also, with your use cases, would these services be impossible if the
> only binding was HTTP?  
Well, here's the trick about handles, as I understand it.  A handle, for 
instance, a DOI, is "10.1074/jbc.M004545200". 

While, for DOI handles, normally we resolve that using dx.doi.org, at 
http://dx.doi.org/10.1074/jbc.M004545200, that is not actually a 
requirement of the handle system. You can resolve it through any handle 
server, over HTTP or otherwise. Even if it's still over HTTP, it doesn't 
have to be at dx.doi.org, it can be via any handle resolver.

For instance, check this out, it works:

http://hdl.handle.net/10.1074/jbc.M004545200

Cause the DOI is really just a subset of Handles, any resolver 
participating in the handle network can resolve em.  In Eric's 
hypothetical use case, that could be a local enterprise handle resolver 
of some kind. (Although I'm not totally sure that would keep your usage 
data private; the documentation I've seen compares the handle network to 
DNS, it's a distributed system, I'm not sure in what cases handle 
resolution requests are sent 'upstream' by the handle resolver, and if 
actual individual lookups are revealed by that or not. But in any case, 
when Ross suggests -- "Presumably dx.hellman.net would need to harvest 
its metadata from somewhere, which seems like it would leave a 
footprint. It also needs some mechanism to stay in sync with the master 
index." -- my reading this suggests this is _built into_ the handle 
protocol, it's part of handle from the very start (again, the DNS 
analogy, with the emphasis on the distributed resolution aspect), you 
don't need to invent it yourself. The details of exactly how it works, I 
don't know enough to say.  )

Now, I'm somewhat new to this stuff too, I don't completely understand 
how it works.  Apparently hdl.handle.net can <strike>handle</strike> 
deal with any handle globally, while presumably dx.doi.org can only deal 
with the subset of handles that are also DOIs.  And apparently you can 
have a handle resolver that works over something other than HTTP too. 
(Although Ross argues, why would you want to? And I'm inclined to agree).

But appears that the handle system is quite a bit more fleshed out than 
a simple purl server, it's a distributed protocol-independent network.   
The protocol-independent part may or may not be useful, but it certainly 
seems like it could be, it doens't hurt to provide for it in advance. 
The distributed part seems pretty cool to me.

So if it's no harder to set up, maintain, and use a handle server than a 
Purl server (this is a big 'if', I'm not sure if that's the case), and 
handle can do everything purl can do and quite a bit more (I'm pretty 
sure that is the case)... why NOT use handle instead of purl? It seems 
like handle is a more fleshed out, robust, full-featured thing than purl.

Jonathan




> Presumably dx.hellman.net would need to
> harvest its metadata from somewhere, which seems like it would leave a
> footprint.  It also needs some mechanism to stay in sync with the
> master index.  Your non-resolution service also seems to be looking
> these things up in realtime.  Would a RESTful or SOAP API (*shudder*)
> not accomplish the same goal?
>
> Really, though, the binding argument here is less the issue here than
> if you believe http URIs are valid identifiers or not since there's no
> reason a URI couldn't be dereferenced via other bindings, either.
>
> -Ross.
>
>