On 12/6/12 2:14 PM, Jessica Wood wrote:
>
> Side note (also selfish): I hope that at least parts of this idea will be
> available to people not attending the conference. I'd love to go to a
> future conference, but I'm not making it to this one.

Jessica, I think that the term is "enlightened self interest" :-).

One thing I'm interested in is "train the trainer" capabilities. I have 
a course that I give that I would like to make available as modules that 
anyone can use. Mine happens to be on linked data, but there are a 
number of (infinite number of?) other topics. I've been pressured to 
turn my course into an online class but I think there is great value in 
f2f teaching, as well as having learners work in groups rather than 
remotely/individually. It would be great to have a set of courses that 
any knowledgeable person could take up and teach to local folks, or as 
pre-conference tutorials. As soon as I have enough content about my 
course online, I'll be asking folks for comments, and see if we can set 
up a train-the-trainer session. It's probably too late for this upcoming 
c4l, but I will be looking for other opportunities.

kc

>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Andromeda Yelton <[log in to unmask]
>> wrote:
>> In terms of structure, drupalladder.org and Dreamwidth (
>> http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Dev_Getting_Started ) are good models
>> for how to scaffold the process for new developers, and to help new
>> community members regardless of skill level find places they can contribute
>> and understand the socially accepted workflow. --ay
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hey Shaun,
>>>
>>> I was actually thinking about some of this this morning, so I'm happy to
>>> see there is someone else out there thinking about the same things.
>>>
>>> I like the idea of some type of structure to a program, I wonder if maybe
>>> we could combine Karen's idea of training with a mentorship program.
>>>
>>> I also like your idea of projects being a way to recruit future
>> volunteers,
>>> both because it helps us know where to go to find people, but also
>> because
>>> it would help newbies figure out what's out there in the Code4Lib world
>> (it
>>> took me forever to realize that the website was something i needed a
>>> password to in order to vote).
>>>
>>> If you already started a wiki page point me to it, I'm happy to start
>>> fleshing out ideas!
>>>
>>> Rosalyn
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>>> Hi Rosalyn,
>>>> I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other
>> women
>>>> at Code4Lib.  I also see the pairing of women mentors with women
>> mentees
>>> as
>>>> fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I would be interested
>> in
>>>> collaborating with you and others to help frame it out.
>>>>
>>>> I don't think it needs to be very formal, but it would be important to
>>>> give some structure to it so folks know what they are getting into, how
>>> to
>>>> make sure everyone meets their goals, and measure the effectiveness of
>>> the
>>>> program in terms of meeting code4lib goals (such as increasing
>> diversity,
>>>> getting more volunteer help, etc.).  We can start a wikipage to start
>> to
>>>> flesh this out, unless folks would like to use a different forum.
>>>>
>>>> In addition to the RailsBridge workshop, I was thinking that Code4Lib
>>>> community projects would be a great way to both learn and recruit
>> future
>>>> volunteers.  I was also trying to find the list of maintenance projects
>>>> wiki page that someone (Jonathan?) was referring to as being top
>>> priorities
>>>> for Code4Lib.  Is this it?
>>>> http://wiki.code4lib.org/**index.php/AdminToDo<
>>> http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/AdminToDo>
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> -Shaun
>>>>
>>>> On 12/5/12 3:57 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So rather than focusing on statistics and math, I'd like to steer the
>>>>> conversation in a different direction.  Let's say Ross is right and
>> more
>>>>> women chose to take the survey based on the topic -- maybe that's a
>> way
>>> to
>>>>> get women involved in Code4Lib.
>>>>>
>>>>> Karen had the idea of creating a women Code4Lib IRC channel, maybe
>> that
>>>>> can
>>>>> be a place to start.  Or maybe we have a few women that are willing to
>>>>> step
>>>>> up and be a Code4Lib mentor to other women -- similar to what we do
>> for
>>>>> the
>>>>> new member event at the conference.  I'd even be willing to step up
>> and
>>>>> organize that if people like the idea.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, stuart yeates <
>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> **
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>   On 06/12/12 09:05, Sara Amato wrote:
>>>>>>   I'd been staying out of this discussion, but the thought occurs to
>> me
>>>>>>> that someone with access to the list of subscribers might run that
>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>> a list of traditional boy/girl names, and be able to make some
>>> guesses….
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> That idea runs into problems both with non-western names (there is
>> more
>>>>>> than one kind of diversity) and those people whose experience of
>> gender
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> the workplace have led them to use non-gender-specific identifiers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cheers
>>>>>> stuart
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Stuart Yeates
>>>>>> Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/****library/<
>>> http://www.victoria.ac.nz/**library/>
>>>>>> <http://www.victoria.**ac.nz/library/<
>>> http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/>
>>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Shaun D. Ellis
>>>> Digital Library Interface Developer
>>>> Firestone Library, Princeton University
>>>> voice: 609.258.1698 | [log in to unmask]
>>>>

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