I will be starting a separate one. It has been in the works. More coming in the next few days if not sooner.
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> On Jul 2, 2019, at 12:29 PM, Chris Hoffman <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> Hi Natasha,
>
> I know many people are ready to see this thread stop, but do you know of a better forum? code4lib is pretty much the main library-IT list I belong to. If there’s another place where these important issues can be discussed, I’d be happy to join that too. Thanks in advance for any recommendation.
>
> Chris
>
> Chris Hoffman, Ph.D.
> Associate Director, Research IT
> Program Director, Research Data Management <http://researchdata.berkeley.edu/> & Informatics Services
> UC Berkeley
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> 510-256-9643
>
>> On Jul 2, 2019, at 10:06 AM, Natasha Allen <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Josh,
>>
>> Great question. I won't speak for the entire group, only for myself, but
>> other than being entirely off-topic, there are at least a few of us who
>> have expressed concerns regarding the mix of the subject matter and the
>> lack of transparency surrounding the author. The initial request for survey
>> participants and subsequent article did not follow certain journalistic
>> protocols/standards (and frankly looked like spam to me), which led to some
>> distrust of the motives of the individual requesting this sensitive
>> information. I have spoken to Sunni directly off-list about my concerns so
>> I won't rehash what we discussed there, but suffice it to say, there are
>> ways to handle sensitive subjects and this is not one of them. This is an
>> important topic, and one that should be addressed with great care. I think
>> they appear to be well-meaning but it's not, I think, the best forum for
>> such discussions. I hope this helps.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Natasha
>>
>> ---
>> Natasha Allen (she/her)
>> System and Fulfillment Coordinator, University Library
>> San José State University
>> 1 Washington Square
>> San José , CA 95192
>> [log in to unmask]
>> 408-808-2655
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 9:54 AM Josh Welker <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>> I am actually quite confused about why the Code4Lib community is acting so
>>> annoyed by this topic. I am totally ignorant of the background here. Is the
>>> frustration with the topic itself or with this person?
>>>
>>> Joshua Welker
>>> Library Systems and Discovery Coordinator
>>> James C. Kirkpatrick Library
>>> University of Central Missouri
>>> Warrensburg, MO 64093
>>> JCKL 2260
>>> 660.543.8022
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jul 2, 2019 at 11:48 AM Forrest, Stuart <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Agreed!
>>>>
>>>> Stuart Forrest PhD, Library IT Manager/Analyst
>>>> Beaufort County Library System
>>>> 311 Scott Street, Beaufort, SC 29902
>>>> 843 255 6450
>>>> [log in to unmask]
>>>> beaufortcountylibrary.org
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of Andrew L
>>>> Hickner
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, July 2, 2019 12:43 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]
>>>>
>>>> This entire thread is completely off-topic and becoming a nuisance to the
>>>> community.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Andy Hickner, MSI
>>>> Health Sciences Librarian
>>>> Seton Hall University | Interprofessional Health Sciences Campus
>>>> [log in to unmask] | 1-973-542-6973
>>>>
>>>>
>>> https://linkprotect.cudasvc.com/url?a=http%3a%2f%2flibrary.shu.edu%2fihs&c=E,1,ijKkfXu9kMXX98xSfNwG_SOgresTUy06uscOzPTNeY5Q1MNYt1iHNXDLKdrT7MVwoiDet9tnx3h1UmZOm9qWoV_6OzfAz8RuRay7eIdyG4iwUDoPHQyzVQA,&typo=1
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]> On Behalf Of S B
>>>> Sent: Sunday, June 30, 2019 6:00 PM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Note [administratativia]
>>>>
>>>> Yes, props to ALA about recognizing Dewey.
>>>>
>>>> You don’t have to agree with my petition or think of it as useful.
>>>>
>>>> In the spirit of talking strategies, what do you see as effective
>>>> strategies for the library profession making sexual harassment awareness
>>> a
>>>> top priority?
>>>>
>>>> Sunni
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>>> On Jun 30, 2019, at 4:31 PM, Stuart A. Yeates <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> In the spirit of fixing actual things that need to be fixed, I'd like
>>>>> to point out the really positive news out of the ALA about them
>>>>> recognising Dewey
>>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>>>> theguardian.com%2Fbooks%2F2019%2Fjun%2F27%2Fmelvil-deweys-name-strippe
>>>>> d-from-top-librarian-award&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU
>>>>> %7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075
>>>>> %7C1&sdata=9l4mqVuOxapKNIpP5%2BORFY3OHCSjEt09SiPunDDxhKI%3D&re
>>>>> served=0 and AAAS about them recognising issues with current fellows
>>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.
>>>>> the-scientist.com%2Fnews-opinion%2Fpetition-asks-aaas-to-remove-fellow
>>>>> s-with-sexual-harassment-records-64488&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickn
>>>>> er%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97c
>>>>> a13261d71075%7C1&sdata=iajDSIBWzDEamZJRz8Tlu79wmVKQWqRtzY733MPxq%2
>>>>> BU%3D&reserved=0 Both of these are the result of concerted
>>>>> campaigns over several years by groups of named individuals with
>>>>> clear, concrete, goals in mind and explicit strategies of how to get
>>>>> there.
>>>>>
>>>>> Without a doubt things need to improve in libraries, but I don't see
>>>>> petitions such as this an effective method of improving them.
>>>>>
>>>>> If there is anyone wanting to discuss strategies, my emails are open.
>>>>> Publicising locally the two recent advances mentioned above is going
>>>>> to be on my to-do list.
>>>>>
>>>>> cheers
>>>>> stuart
>>>>> --
>>>>> ...let us be heard from red core to black sky
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, 28 Jun 2019 at 23:12, Eric Lease Morgan <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Jun 27, 2019, at 11:13 PM, S B <
>>>> [log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Library Community,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I have always known the library community to be forward thinking and
>>>> helpful. Through this journey of writing about sexual harassment in
>>>> libraries, I have become concerned about the lack of sexual harassment
>>>> awareness trainings and open and positive dialogue on the subject. Yes,
>>>> articles have been written. Yes, some individual libraries as well as
>>> some
>>>> systems and associations are doing training and having conversation.
>>> That
>>>> is great and should not be overlooked. In many cases, though, it is the
>>>> exact opposite.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In a profession that is so progressive, why does sexual harassment
>>>> awareness seem to take a back seat?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I created a petition about sexual harassment awareness in libraries.
>>>> Would you consider signing and sharing? You don’t have to be in the
>>> library
>>>> profession to sign.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thank you for your consideration of this request. Many Thanks!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Petition Link:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://nam05.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fchn
>>>>>>> g.it%2FPzRB4BQp5f&data=01%7C01%7Candrew.hickner%40SHU.EDU%7Cad30
>>>>>>> d04da4fb4086e94608d6fda65cdc%7C51f07c2253b744dfb97ca13261d71075%7C1&
>>>>>>> amp;sdata=uCY0g6DateauqIHdB5FC9RxVqbmLeVEiHTERLXu%2FJd4%3D&reser
>>>>>>> ved=0
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If the sorts of notes above persist, then I will look into their
>>>>>> whereabouts & see if we can get rid of them. Now back to our regular
>>>>>> programming. --Eric Morgan, List Owner
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>>> and
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>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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