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CODE4LIB February 2005

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Re: Formatting MARC records

From:

Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

Date:

Tue, 15 Feb 2005 14:34:33 -0500

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Or, even better, since you have authoritative data to work with, Roy's
display could come from /anywhere/.  The MARC record could just sit
there in the background.  The front could even be from some sort of
community contributed interface.  As long as there's some key between
the two, it could be anything.

I think more of this type of development should be encouraged... a sort
of abstraction between the MARC record and the user.

-Ross.

Hickey,Thom wrote:

>The control number is there for the same reason it's on a catalog
>record--sometimes you want a solid link from the citation back to the
>original bibliographic information.  At this stage in development it's
>almost indispensable, but longer term, maybe it could be dropped,
>especially if a fuller display that included it could be reached as
>needed.  The Dewey was there because this came out of a Dewey-oriented
>tool we've been working on.
>
>I think the notes are difficult.  Probably depends on how much screen is
>available for display.  Certainly there are some tasks undertaken by
>more informed users that would need them.  Maybe a little study would
>identify a subset of notes that would be of general use.
>
>Actually, it's surprising how few of the MARC fields are needed for a
>decent display.  I was skipping most of them.
>
>It seems to me that your version -would- be possible to generate from a
>MARC record.
>
>--Th
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>Roy Tennant
>Sent: Friday, February 11, 2005 3:31 PM
>To: [log in to unmask]
>Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Formatting MARC records
>
>Thom,
>I think you're right that the labeled display should be dumped, and I
>think you have a fairly decent first cut. Since you didn't specify an
>audience for this display I'm going to go out on a limb and assume it
>is the average (I know there is no such thing) library user. So putting
>myself in their shoes, I would want to see the a record more like this:
>
>Wall Street On Sale: How to Beat the Market as a Value Investor [linked
>to the online version]
>By Timothy P. Vick
>New York: McGraw-Hill, c1999.
>1. Investments--United States. 2. Stocks--United States
>
>That's it, unless there is a Notes field worth displaying. Yes, I'm
>aware that I've come up with a display that is impossible to generate
>from MARC, but that's kind of my point. But we can at least get close,
>perhaps. You see, I think we need to start from the viewpoint of what
>most users would find intuitive and useful, and do everything we can to
>give it to them. Too many times we start from what we have, and make a
>couple of assumptions: 1) they're interested in everything in the MARC
>record (most aren't at all), and b) since we have it they should have
>to look at it whether they like it or not. For example, what, pray
>tell, is the purpose of displaying the control numbers? It looks like
>one is a Dewey number, but that is basically useless unless it is
>linked to a holding location, which may use a different shelf location
>entirely. Sorry if I've made some incorrect assumptions. I also don't
>want my comments to overshadow the fact that I think you are definitely
>on the right track of dumping the typical labeled display. Thanks,
>Roy
>
>On Feb 11, 2005, at 12:09 PM, Hickey,Thom wrote:
>
>
>
>>Has anyone else played around with a 'compact' display of MARC-XML?
>>Here's my first cut using a little XSLT and CSS:
>>
>>
>>
>><image.tiff>
>>
>>
>>
>>Those old enough may recognize the inspiration for this.  I claim
>>something along these lines is more functional than the typical
>>labeled display for many purposes.  I did some searching around, but
>>couldn't find any other examples.
>>
>>
>>
>>--Thomas Hickey, Chief Scientist, OCLC
>>
>>--614.764.6000
>>
>>--mailto:[log in to unmask]
>>
>>--http://errol.oclc.org/laf/n82-54463.html
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>>
>
>
>

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