D Chudnov wrote:
> 1) we could have found someplace
> 2) this is a problem either way
> 3) this is a problem either way
> 4) a few days' downtime is one thing - a few weeks' is another.
>
>
Yes, I believe everyone realizes this is a problem. That is why everyone
has been talking about figuring out a solution. The OSU proposal was
deemed the best available solution yesterday in a discussion, but that
doesn't mean you can't propose other ones.

If you think you need to convince everyone that the current situation is
a problem, I think you are tilting at windmills. Everyone is convinced.

Jonathan


>
>>> 2.  Are there offsite backups of the www.code4lib.org site - its files
>>> and database?
>>>
>>>
>> Yes, and they live on my machine at work.
>>
>
> Let's set up a second backup of your backup?  I'll take a copy, and
> add another to s3 for safer-keeping.
>
>
>
>>> 3.  The discussion seemed to only involve one proposal.  There wasn't
>>> a call for any other proposals, and it wasn't clear to me that by
>>> missing this meeting (i was at a gathering with several other people
>>> with an interest in anvil and other things c4l) that I would miss out
>>> on any opportunity to have input.  I'd like to propose a different
>>> hosting plan.  Shouldn't there be a chance for more discussion here?
>>>
>> Who's stopping you?  We announced a 'town hall meeting', nobody
>> publicly dissented on the mailing list.  We're 'discussing' now,
>> you're complaining but not articulating an alternative.  You mentioned
>> ibiblio in channel, but until something tangible is offered, the
>> Oregon State offer meets the 'one in hand is worth two in the bush'
>> criteria.
>>
>
> Nobody is stopping me.  I was offline all weekend, and busy otherwise,
> and it wasn't clear to me whether this was a done deal already.
>
> I'm not complaining, I'm just seeking clarification.  In a
> complainy-sounding way.
>
>
>
>>> I understand that some of these questions might seem to be coming a
>>> bit late, and I'm sorry to be in a position where my jerkiness is all
>>> the worse because of it.  But I still think these are questions that
>>> need answers.
>>>
>> I don't think anything has been 'decided'.  We had a meeting, OSU
>> stepped forward, nobody present objected.  www.code4lib.org is still
>> 'down'.
>>
>
> I propose that we move hosting of www.code4lib.org to ibiblio if
> they'll have us.  They've been there for 15(+?) years, they are there
> for exactly this purpose, and they're not for-profit.  I've had good
> luck hosting things there, and they're liberal about accounts, so long
> as you don't prove to be an idiot.  To support this I'd be happy to
> sign up for support duties.
>
> Separately I can bring up an emergency/temporary backup of the
> www.code4lib.org site if it is not otherwise possible before the end
> of the week.  I'm in transit all day tomorrow, but let me know by
> first thing friday
>
>   -Dan
>
>

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Jonathan Rochkind
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The Sheridan Libraries
Johns Hopkins University
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