From: "Jonathan Rochkind" <[log in to unmask]>
> HTML works out pretty well. If our biggest failures were 'failures' like 
> HTML, we'd be doing pretty well.

HTML is a wonderful standard.

And I don't mean to take the discussion off-course.   My point was simply 
that because early browsers did not insist on clean html, the proliferation 
of unlean html has reached the point where, well, whether you consider it a 
"mess"  or not depends on how much importance you place on clean html.  It's 
important to me.

--Ray