Unfortunately RefWorks only imports DO - not exports! We now recommend using
RefWorks XML when exporting (for our project) - which is fine, but not
publicly documented as far as I know :(
Zotero recommend using BibTex for importing from RefWorks I think
Owen
On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:05 PM, Walker, David <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I was also just working on DOI with RIS.
>
> It looks like both Endnote and Refworks recognize 'DO' for DOIs. But
> apparently Zotero does not. If Zotero supported it, I'd say we'd have a de
> facto standard on our hands.
>
> In fact, I couldn't figure out how to pass a DOI to Zotero using RIS. Or,
> at least, in my testing I never saw the DOI show-up in Zotero. I don't
> really use Zotero, so I may have missed it.
>
> --Dave
>
> ==================
> David Walker
> Library Web Services Manager
> California State University
> http://xerxes.calstate.edu
> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Owen
> Stephens [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:26 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Twitter annotations and library software
>
> We've had problems with RIS on a recent project. Although there is a
> specification (http://www.refman.com/support/risformat_intro.asp), it is
> (I
> feel) lacking enough rigour to ever be implemented consistently. The most
> common issue in the wild that I've seen is use of different tags for the
> same information (which the specification does not nail down enough to know
> when each should be used):
>
> Use of TI or T1 for primary title
> Use of AU or A1 for primary author
> Use of UR, L1 or L2 to link to 'full text'
>
> Perhaps more significantly the specification doesn't include any field
> specifically for a DOI, but despite this EndNote (owned by ISI
> ResearchSoft,
> who are also responsible for the RIS format specification) includes the DOI
> in a DO field in its RIS output - not to specification.
>
> Owen
>
> On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Jakob Voss <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > it's funny how quickly you vote against BibTeX, but at least it is a
> format
> > that is frequently used in the wild to create citations. If you call
> BibTeX
> > undocumented and garbage then how do you call MARC which is far more
> > difficult to make use of?
> >
> > My assumption was that there is a specific use case for bibliographic
> data
> > in twitter annotations:
> >
> > I. Identifiy publication => this can *only* be done seriously with
> > identifiers like ISBN, DOI, OCLCNum, LCCN etc.
> >
> > II. Deliver a citation => use a citation-oriented format (BibTeX, CSL,
> RIS)
> >
> > I was not voting explicitly for BibTeX but at least there is a large
> > community that can make use of it. I strongly favour CSL (
> > http://citationstyles.org/) because:
> >
> > - there is a JavaScript CSL-Processor. JavaScript is kind of a punishment
> > but it is the natural environment for the Web 2.0 Mashup crowd that is
> going
> > to implement applications that use Twitter annotations
> >
> > - there are dozens of CSL citation styles so you can display a citation
> in
> > any way you want
> >
> > As Ross pointed out RIS would be an option too, but I miss the easy open
> > source tools that use RIS to create citations from RIS data.
> >
> > Any other relevant format that I know (Bibont, MODS, MARC etc.) does not
> > aim at identification or citation at the first place but tries to model
> the
> > full variety of bibliographic metadata. If your use case is
> >
> > III. Provide semantic properties and connections of a publication
> >
> > Then you should look at the Bibliographic Ontology. But III does *not*
> > "just subsume" usecase II. - it is a different story that is not beeing
> told
> > by normal people but only but metadata experts, semantic web gurus,
> library
> > system developers etc. (I would count me to this groups). If you want
> such
> > complex data then you should use other systems but Twitter for data
> exchange
> > anyway.
> >
> > A list of CSL metadata fields can be found at
> >
> > http://citationstyles.org/downloads/specification.html#appendices
> >
> > and the JavaScript-Processor (which is also used in Zotero) provides more
> > information for developers: http://groups.google.com/group/citeproc-js
> >
> > Cheers
> > Jakob
> >
> > P.S: An example of a CSL record from the JavaScript client:
> >
> > {
> > "title": "True Crime Radio and Listener Disenchantment with Network
> > Broadcasting, 1935-1946",
> > "author": [ {
> > "family": "Razlogova",
> > "given": "Elena"
> > } ],
> > "container-title": "American Quarterly",
> > "volume": "58",
> > "page": "137-158",
> > "issued": { "date-parts": [ [2006, 3] ] },
> > "type": "article-journal"
> >
> > }
> >
> >
> > --
> > Jakob Voß <[log in to unmask]>, skype: nichtich
> > Verbundzentrale des GBV (VZG) / Common Library Network
> > Platz der Goettinger Sieben 1, 37073 Göttingen, Germany
> > +49 (0)551 39-10242, http://www.gbv.de
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Owen Stephens
> Owen Stephens Consulting
> Web: http://www.ostephens.com
> Email: [log in to unmask]
>
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