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CODE4LIB May 2010

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Re: MODS and DCTERMS

From:

Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]>

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Mon, 3 May 2010 09:37:52 -0700

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Quoting MJ Suhonos <[log in to unmask]>:

> Sure, my goal is simple in theory and complex in practice: take a   
> pile of MARC records and turn them into a set of DCTERMS (I'll avoid  
>  reference to the older QDC notion) so that I can do interesting   
> things with them — the simplest use case being exposing a "record"   
> as a pile of RDF triples.

dcterms so so terribly lossy that it would be a shame to reduce MARC  
to it. What we need, ASAP, is a triple form of MARC (and I know some  
folks have experimented with this...) and a translate from MARC to the  
RDA elements that have been registered in RDF. However, I hear that  
JSC is going to be adding more detail to the RDA elements so that  
could mean changes coming down the pike.

I started to create a MARC/RDA crosswalk out of the JSC document that  
compares them, but there were catches: 1) the document wasn't specific  
enough 2) there are going to have to be lots of 'if-then-else's  
incorporated into it.

I am interested in working on "MARC as triples", which I see as a  
transformation format. I have a database of MARC elements that might  
be a crude basis for this. Again, some logic will be needed to get the  
real meaning out of the MARC fields and subfields. I would appreciate  
hearing from anyone who has done some or all of this.

kc

>
> The main rationale behind using DCTERMS is that it is: a) more   
> expressive than DC, obviously; and b) it's more interoperable with   
> stuff like RDF than MODS, since it's based on the DC abstract model.
>
> The main reason I'm looking at MARC->MODS->DCTERMS instead of the   
> known MARC->QDC crosswalk is because I can't read MARC worth beans   
> (245? 799? XYZ? What?).  And the LoC MARC->MODS XSL does a nice job   
> of mapping and stripping out the stuff that I don't want to be   
> bothered with anyway.
>
> Like I say, if I've misunderstood something, please do feel free to   
> correct me.
>
> MJ
>
> PS.  Actually, Karen's post today is pretty close to the mark.  I'm   
> building a prototype LibBase.
>
> http://kcoyle.blogspot.com/2010/05/bib-data-and-semantic-web.html
>
>
> On 2010-05-03, at 12:12 PM, Ross Singer wrote:
>
>> Out of curiosity, what is your use case for turning this into DC?
>> That might help those of us that are struggling to figure out where to
>> start with trying to help you with an answer.
>>
>> -Ross.
>>
>> On Mon, May 3, 2010 at 11:46 AM, MJ Suhonos <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Thanks for your comments, guys.  I was beginning to think the lack  
>>>  of response indicated that I'd asked something either heretical  
>>> or  painfully obvious.  :-)
>>>
>>>> That's my understanding as well. oai_dc predates the defining of   
>>>> the 15 legacy DC properties in the dcterms namespace, and it's my  
>>>>  guess nobody saw a reason to update the oai_dc definition after   
>>>> this happened.
>>>
>>> This is at least part of my use case — we do a lot of work with   
>>> OAI on both ends, and oai_dc is pretty limited due to the original  
>>>  15 elements.  My thinking at this point is that there's no reason  
>>>  we couldn't define something like "oai_dcterms" and use the full   
>>> QDC set based on the updated profile.  Right?
>>>
>>> FWIW, I'm not limited to any legacy ties; in fact, my project is   
>>> aimed at pushing the newer, "DC-sanctioned" ideas forward, so I   
>>> suspect in my case using an XML serialization that validates   
>>> against http://purl.org/dc/terms/ is probably sufficient (whether   
>>> that's RDF or not doesn't matter at this point).
>>>
>>> So, back to the other part of the question:  has anybody seen a   
>>> MODS <—> DCTERMS crosswalk in the wild?  It looks like there's a   
>>> lot of similarity between the two, but before I go too deep down   
>>> that rabbit hole, I'd like to make sure someone else hasn't   
>>> already experienced that, erm, joy.
>>>
>>> MJ
>>>
>



-- 
Karen Coyle
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