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SV: [CODE4LIB] AGPL for libraries (was: A to Z lists)

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Tony Mattsson <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Hi,

> Great to hear of your effort; I hope you have chosen to implement the NISO 1.0 standard.

I have no idea what the NISO standard is. The only standard followed is the OpenURL (currently 0.1) standard.
But of course, this is an open source project, so I or anyone else can implemented it if needed.

> I would urge you to carefully consider your choice of license, however. As I wrote last year when
> the issue came up in Koha, using AGPL in stead of the less restrictive GPL can have some unintended
> consequences. http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2010/07/koha-community-considers-affero-license.html

Iteresting link :=) I focus mainly on code, and I am not that well-versed with different versions of open source licenses.
I chose AGPL since it it seemed better adapted to server scripts.

What I would want is a license that keeps the software free, and that people has to make improvements availible. Any suggestions?

Tony

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Eric Hellman
Skickat: den 17 februari 2011 14:23
Till: [log in to unmask]
Ämne: [CODE4LIB] AGPL for libraries (was: A to Z lists)

Hej Tony!

Great to hear of your effort; I hope you have chosen to implement the NISO 1.0 standard.

I would urge you to carefully consider your choice of license, however. As I wrote last year when the issue came up in Koha, using AGPL in stead of the less restrictive GPL can have some unintended consequences. http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2010/07/koha-community-considers-affero-license.html

It is still a reality today that many library resources release api's that are provided only to customers and often come with interface licenses incompatible with GPL. If you use AGPL, a library that modified the software to use it with one of these resources would be in violation of your license, even if they did not redistribute the software. If that's your intention, then fine, but please make sure you understand the implications.

Also, please don't confuse AGPL, which is a restrictive license rooted in copyright law, with public domain, which has no restrictions on use.

Eric

On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Tony Mattsson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We are at the final stages of building an EBM system with AZ-list and OpenURL resolver developed in LAMP (with Ajax) which we will release into the public domain (AGPL). I'll put up a notice on this list when it's done, and you can try it out to see if it measures up :=)
> 
> Tony Mattsson
> IT-Librarian
> Landstinget Dalarna Bibliotek och informationscentral
> http://materio.fabicutv.com
> 
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Michele DeSilva
> Skickat: den 16 februari 2011 22:18
> Till: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: [CODE4LIB] A to Z lists
> 
> Hi Code4Lib-ers,
> 
> I want to chime in and say that I, too, enjoyed the streaming archive from the conference.
> 
> I also have a question: my library has a horribly antiquated A to Z list of databases and online resources (it's based in Access). We'd like to do something that looks more modern and is far more user friendly. I found a great article in the Code4Lib journal (issue 12, by Danielle Rosenthal & Mario Bernado) about building a searchable A to Z list using Drupal. I'm also wondering what other institutions have done as far as in-house solutions. I know there're products we could buy, but, like everyone else, we don't have much money at the moment.
> 
> Thanks for any info or advice!
> 
> Michele DeSilva
> Central Oregon Community College Library
> Emerging Technologies Librarian
> 541-383-7565
> [log in to unmask]

Eric Hellman
President, Gluejar, Inc.
41 Watchung Plaza, #132
Montclair, NJ 07042
USA

[log in to unmask] 
http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/
@gluejar 

-----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
Från: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Eric Hellman
Skickat: den 17 februari 2011 14:23
Till: [log in to unmask]
Ämne: [CODE4LIB] AGPL for libraries (was: A to Z lists)

Hej Tony!

Great to hear of your effort; I hope you have chosen to implement the NISO 1.0 standard.

I would urge you to carefully consider your choice of license, however. As I wrote last year when the issue came up in Koha, using AGPL in stead of the less restrictive GPL can have some unintended consequences. http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/2010/07/koha-community-considers-affero-license.html

It is still a reality today that many library resources release api's that are provided only to customers and often come with interface licenses incompatible with GPL. If you use AGPL, a library that modified the software to use it with one of these resources would be in violation of your license, even if they did not redistribute the software. If that's your intention, then fine, but please make sure you understand the implications.

Also, please don't confuse AGPL, which is a restrictive license rooted in copyright law, with public domain, which has no restrictions on use.

Eric

On Feb 17, 2011, at 4:34 AM, Tony Mattsson wrote:

> Hi,
> 
> We are at the final stages of building an EBM system with AZ-list and OpenURL resolver developed in LAMP (with Ajax) which we will release into the public domain (AGPL). I'll put up a notice on this list when it's done, and you can try it out to see if it measures up :=)
> 
> Tony Mattsson
> IT-Librarian
> Landstinget Dalarna Bibliotek och informationscentral
> http://materio.fabicutv.com
> 
> -----Ursprungligt meddelande-----
> Från: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] För Michele DeSilva
> Skickat: den 16 februari 2011 22:18
> Till: [log in to unmask]
> Ämne: [CODE4LIB] A to Z lists
> 
> Hi Code4Lib-ers,
> 
> I want to chime in and say that I, too, enjoyed the streaming archive from the conference.
> 
> I also have a question: my library has a horribly antiquated A to Z list of databases and online resources (it's based in Access). We'd like to do something that looks more modern and is far more user friendly. I found a great article in the Code4Lib journal (issue 12, by Danielle Rosenthal & Mario Bernado) about building a searchable A to Z list using Drupal. I'm also wondering what other institutions have done as far as in-house solutions. I know there're products we could buy, but, like everyone else, we don't have much money at the moment.
> 
> Thanks for any info or advice!
> 
> Michele DeSilva
> Central Oregon Community College Library
> Emerging Technologies Librarian
> 541-383-7565
> [log in to unmask]

Eric Hellman
President, Gluejar, Inc.
41 Watchung Plaza, #132
Montclair, NJ 07042
USA

[log in to unmask] 
http://go-to-hellman.blogspot.com/
@gluejar

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