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Re: LAMP Hosting service that supports php_yaz?

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Dale Askey <[log in to unmask]>

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Code for Libraries <[log in to unmask]>

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Tue, 22 Mar 2011 13:43:33 -0400

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If you're still searching for host recommendations, Cindy, I can
recommend A Small Orange. I've been a customer over several accounts
for about five years and have been very satisfied. They've been
willing to install all sorts of things for me on shared servers, and
have done so remarkably quickly.

Can only second Ross's comments on a VPS. One of the accounts with ASO
that I set up is a VPS, and while for the purpose we needed a host it
was the only realistic option, the overhead to keep it safe and
functional is not trivial, at all.

Dale

On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 11:49 AM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Thanks, Ross.  So that's why they call it "nice"? As usual I have much to
> learn.
>
> Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
> Colgate University Libraries
> [log in to unmask]
> 315-228-7363
>
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:50 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> Cindy, sorry, I realize that was vague.  I have shell access on Site5,
>> but since you're using shared resources, they monitor your CPU/memory
>> usage.  During high volume on a particular server, they'll kill
>> processes that are running to make sure they can meet demands.  This
>> *could* happen when you're trying to compile something, which tends to
>> be CPU-intensive, although it just depends.
>>
>> I've had their trigger kick in while trying to install ruby gems,
>> although it's completely unpredictable (that is, based on all sorts of
>> variables) - sometimes the gems install with no problem, other times
>> they're killed.  Compiling yaz is probably less of an issue (the
>> makefile calls lots of things that run intensely, but quickly) than
>> the pecl install of php/yaz.
>>
>> Running things in nice (http://linux.die.net/man/2/nice) probably
>> helps your chances, but YMMV.  I don't think this policy is exclusive
>> to Site5, pretty much all of the major shared web hosting providers
>> will have something similar in place, otherwise users could constantly
>> have processes running in shells.
>>
>> Like I said, though, it shouldn't be a problem, it just might take a
>> few tries (which will be less work, in the long run, then running your
>> own VPS).
>>
>> -Ross.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 10:05 AM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> > Sorry - what do you mean by "triggers their usage monitor" - CPU usage
>> above
>> > a certain threshold? Or they don't allow compiles?  I spoke with
>> Bluehost,
>> > and they indicated that if I got SSH access, I could try to compile it
>> > myself. I'll check to see if this is possible with Lunarpages, which we
>> now
>> > have accounts with.
>> >
>> > Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
>> > Colgate University Libraries
>> > [log in to unmask]
>> > 315-228-7363
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Cindy, I think this might be possible, depending on the provider.  I
>> >> have a site on Site5 and this seems pretty doable (it looks like I
>> >> might have even tried this at some point, since I seem to have a
>> >> compiled version of yaz in my home directory).  It would probably take
>> >> some rooting around in the forums to see how people successfully are
>> >> installing PECL extensions and it might take a few tries to compile
>> >> yaz successfully (since if it triggers their usage monitor, they'll
>> >> kill the process), but I think it would be worth a shot.  I would
>> >> definitely recommend this before jumping to a VPS (and let's be
>> >> realistic, everybody, if you're being this blasee about running a VPS,
>> >> you are either investing some time/expertise sys admining it or you
>> >> have an insecure server waiting to be exploited).
>> >>
>> >> Good luck!
>> >> -Ross.
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 1:17 PM, Cindy Harper <[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>> >> > I guess I was hoping to have service such as that provided by my
>> current
>> >> > hosting service, where security,etc., updates for L A M & P are all
>> >> > taken
>> >> > care of by the host. Any recommendations along those lines?  One that
>> >> > provides that and still lets me install what I want? My service
>> >> > suggested
>> >> > that I go to a VPS account,where I'd have to do my own updates.
>> >> >
>> >> > Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
>> >> > Colgate University Libraries
>> >> > [log in to unmask]
>> >> > 315-228-7363
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> >
>> >> > On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 11:00 AM, Han, Yan
>> >> > <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>> >> >
>> >> >> You can just buy a node from a variety of cloud providers such as
>> >> >> Amazon
>> >> >> EC2, Linode etc. (It is very easy to build anything you want).
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Yan
>> >> >>
>> >> >>
>> >> >> -----Original Message-----
>> >> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
>> Of
>> >> >> Cindy Harper
>> >> >> Sent: Sunday, March 06, 2011 10:54 AM
>> >> >> To: [log in to unmask]
>> >> >> Subject: [CODE4LIB] LAMP Hosting service that supports php_yaz?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> At the risk of exhausting my quota of messages for the month - Our
>> LAMP
>> >> >> hosting service does not support PECL extension php_yaz. Does anyone
>> >> >> know of
>> >> >> a service that does?
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Cindy Harper, Systems Librarian
>> >> >> Colgate University Libraries
>> >> >> [log in to unmask]
>> >> >> 315-228-7363
>> >> >>
>> >> >
>> >
>> >
>>
>



-- 
Dale Askey
Associate University Librarian, Library and Learning Technologies
L305/A Mills Library
McMaster University Library
1280 Main St. W
Hamilton, ON L8S 4L6
voice: (905) 525-9140 ext 21880
skype: dsaskey
http://htwkbk.wordpress.com/

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