I guess that people may already be familiar with the Candide 2.0 project at NYPL http://candide.nypl.org/text/ - this sounds not dissimilar to the type of approach being suggested
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On 10 Apr 2011, at 17:35, Nate Hill wrote:
> Eric, thanks for finding enough merit in my post on the DPLA listserv
> to repost it here.
> Karen and Peter, I completely agree with your feelings-
> But my point in throwing this idea out there was that despite all of
> the copyright issues, we don't really do a great job making a simple,
> intuitive, branded interface for the works that *are* available - the
> public domain stuff. Instead we seem to be content with knowing that
> this content is out there, and letting vendors add it to their
> difficult-to-use interfaces.
> I guess my hope, seeing this reposted here is that someone might have
> a suggestion as to why I would not host public domain ebooks on my own
> library's site. Are there technical hurdles to consider?
> I feel like I see a tiny little piece of the ebook access problem that
> we *can* solve here, while some of the larger issues will indeed be
> debated in forums like the DPLA for quite a while. By solving a small
> problem along the way, perhaps when the giant 1923-2011 problem is
> resolved we'll have a clearer path as to what type of access we might
> On 4/10/11, Peter Murray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> I, too, have been struggling with this aspect of the discussion. (I'm on the
>> DPLA list as well.) There seems to be this blind spot within the leadership
>> of the group to ignore the copyright problem and any interaction with
>> publishers of popular materials. One of the great hopes that I have for this
>> group, with all of the publicity it is generating, is to serve as a voice
>> and a focal point to bring authors, publishers and librarians together to
>> talk about a new digital ownership and sharing model.
>> That doesn't seem to be happening.
>> On Apr 10, 2011, at 10:05, "Karen Coyle" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> I appreciate the spirit of this, but despair at the idea that
>>> libraries organize their services around public domain works, thus
>>> becoming early 20th century institutions. The gap between 1923 and
>>> 2011 is huge, and it makes no sense to users that a library provide
>>> services based on publication date, much less that enhanced services
>>> stop at 1923.
>>> Quoting Eric Hellman <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>> The DPLA listserv is probably too impractical for most of Code4Lib,
>>>> but Nate Hill (who's on this list as well) made this contribution
>>>> there, which I think deserves attention from library coders here.
>>>> On Apr 5, 2011, at 11:15 AM, Nate Hill wrote:
>>>>> It is awesome that the project Gutenberg stuff is out there, it is
>>>>> a great start. But libraries aren't using it right. There's been
>>>>> talk on this list about the changing role of the public library in
>>>>> people's lives, there's been talk about the library brand, and some
>>>>> talk about what 'local' might mean in this context. I'd suggest
>>>>> that we should find ways to make reading library ebooks feel local
>>>>> and connected to an immediate community. Brick and mortar library
>>>>> facilities are public spaces, and librarians are proud of that. We
>>>>> have collections of materials in there, and we host programs and
>>>>> events to give those materials context within the community.
>>>>> There's something special about watching a child find a good book,
>>>>> and then show it to his or her friend and talk about how awesome
>>>>> it is. There's also something special about watching a senior
>>>>> citizens book group get together and discuss a new novel every
>>>>> month. For some reason, libraries really struggle with treating
>>>>> their digital spaces the same way.
>>>>> I'd love to see libraries creating online conversations around
>>>>> ebooks in much the same way. Take a title from project Gutenberg:
>>>>> The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn. Why not host that book
>>>>> directly on my library website so that it can be found at an
>>>>> intuitive URL, www.sjpl.org/the-adventures-of-huckleberry-finn and
>>>>> then create a forum for it? The URL itself takes care of the
>>>>> 'local' piece; certainly my most likely visitors will be San Jose
>>>>> residents- especially if other libraries do this same thing. The
>>>>> brand remains intact, when I launch this web page that holds the
>>>>> book I can promote my library's identity. The interface is no
>>>>> problem because I can optimize the page to load well on any device
>>>>> and I can link to different formats of the book. Finally, and most
>>>>> importantly, I've created a local digital space for this book so
>>>>> that people can converse about it via comments, uploaded pictures,
>>>>> video, whatever. I really think this community conversation and
>>>>> context-creation around materials is a big part of what makes
>>>>> public libraries special.
>>>> Eric Hellman
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