Don't be dismissive so fast. You may go back and do your homework.
Check with your Counsel or literature. What's happening here is a work
around LEGAL realities.
Karim Boughjida
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On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:22 PM, Andrew Shuping <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Copyright rules would apply regardless of format and general counsel
> interpretations wouldn't really apply to this scenario.
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> Andrew Shuping
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> Robert Frost - "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned
> about life: it goes on."
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> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 7:17 PM, karim boughida <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> It seems that it is also related to copyright restrictions and general
>> counsel interpretations. If you print and re-scan. You're safer.
>> photocopy rules apply and not electronic copy.
>> Don't ask me more. I'm not a lawyer.
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>> Karim Boughida
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>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:59 PM, Andrew Shuping <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>> Ranti is correct in what she says about publishers. As an ILL person
>>> it drives me nuts that there are so many loopholes just to be able to
>>> send stuff from our databases via ILL. Some of them say you can but
>>> you have to download it, print it, and then scan it again. It isn't
>>> the ILL practices that need improvement, its bringing publishers into
>>> the 21st century.
>>>
>>> And as far as making it searchable its just not an option for a lot of
>>> library ILL departments when they have to rescan the document. There
>>> are only two sending programs for ILL software (Ariel and Odyssey)
>>> outside of email and Ariel is a huge pain in the butt as to what type
>>> of scanners work with it. And while Odyssey can support more scanners
>>> a number of ILL departments just don't have the money to buy a
>>> scanner/software to make it OCR compatible documents.
>>>
>>> Andrew Shuping
>>> Emerging Technologies & Services/Interlibrary Loan
>>> Jack Tarver Library, Macon, GA
>>> Robert Frost - "In three words I can sum up everything I've learned
>>> about life: it goes on."
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>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Ranti Junus <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>> It depends on the license agreement between the publisher and the
>>>> lending library. Many publishers do not allow library ILL to simply
>>>> download the PDF directly from their journal article page and send it
>>>> to the requestor. A lot of publishers allow the lending library to
>>>> download and print the article, and then send it to the borrowing
>>>> library as paper copy. There are also publishers who allow to send
>>>> article as print-scan-send. That is, we have to print out the PDF,
>>>> scan it (back to the PDF), and send it as a file.
>>>>
>>>> Do ask me why the publisher want that kind of silliness. That's what
>>>> I'm told when I complaint about exactly the same thing.
>>>>
>>>> It is my understanding the scan-to-pdf is the problematic one; ILL
>>>> unit will need to have OCR-capable scanner and that might add another
>>>> burden to them if the OCR result is not good. YMMV.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ranti.
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>>>> On Wed, May 4, 2011 at 4:18 PM, don warner saklad <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>>> How do you request digital format for a pdf interlibrary loan journal
>>>>> article where a digital format is available for the article?... not the
>>>>> image format if available in digital. Guidelines for interlibrary loan
>>>>> practices need to distinguish digital pdf from image pdf where journal
>>>>> articles are available in digital format.
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