Aha, the plot thickens! This sounds very promising. I'll sound very keen
when they email me back!
Thanks so much Roy.
-Rowan
On 26 September 2011 08:24, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From the person in a position to know: "We have not yet figured out
> pricing. We are definitely considering the needs of the developing
> nations but don't have answers yet. At this point we are most focused
> on the feature set that can be activated with no human intervention.
> Looking for the intersection of the basic need and most automatable
> (that probably is not a word)."
> Roy
>
> On Sun, Sep 25, 2011 at 3:14 PM, rowan eisner <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> > Ok, I tried to sign up for WSSL and you have to be in US. Also, if it
> will
> > cost 'a cup of coffee a day' am I right that would be at least $700 a
> year?
> > That's our entire annual budget. So probably only for first world
> countries
> > anyway. And you're meant to have one or two full-time staff which we
> don't
> > have. Still, I'll email them and see what they say. There are probably
> 1000s
> > of 3rd world libraries doing everything manually still and if there are
> > economies of scale we may be able to afford it.
> >
> > Cheers
> > Rowan
> >
> > On 24 September 2011 17:10, David Mayo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> >> It's so experimental, that it's having a Free *Trail*.
> >>
> >> That is a good suggestion, by the way - I'm just amused by the typo. It
> >> appears twice on this page, once on the sign-up page, and perhaps
> >> elsewhere. Also, "absolutely" is misspelled as "absolutley" on the
> sign-up
> >> page.
> >>
> >> - Dave Mayo
> >>
> >> On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 6:45 PM, Roy Tennant <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> > Actually, I have an even better option from OCLC:
> >> >
> >> > Web Site for Small Libraries (WSSL)
> >> > http://experimental.worldcat.org/lib/
> >> >
> >> > It is really aimed at very small libraries, so it is very easy to use
> >> > but still has some basic circulation capabilities. It's in free trial
> >> > mode now, so take a look and see if it does what you need.
> >> > Roy Tennant
> >> > OCLC Research
> >> >
> >> > On Sat, Sep 24, 2011 at 12:22 AM, JONATHAN LEBRETON <
> [log in to unmask]
> >> >
> >> > wrote:
> >> > > You may be able to do something with OCLCs so-called Web Management
> >> > System whereby your OPAC (in the form of WorldCat local.) and circ
> >> > functions are in the cloud..
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > >
> >> > > Jonathan LeBreton
> >> > > Senior Associate University Librarian
> >> > > Temple University Libraries
> >> > > Philadelphia PA 19122
> >> > > Voice: 215-204-3184
> >> > > Fax: 215-204-5201
> >> > > Mobile: 215-284-5070
> >> > > [log in to unmask]
> >> > > [log in to unmask]
> >> > >
> >> > > ----- Original Message -----
> >> > > From: rowan eisner [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
> >> > > Sent: Friday, September 23, 2011 11:51 PM
> >> > > To: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > > Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Can a library automate without a computer
> yet?
> >> > >
> >> > > Hi Dave
> >> > >
> >> > > It's an honesty system, card based, the way most community libraries
> >> used
> >> > to
> >> > > work before computers. Because it's unstaffed about 15% of books
> aren't
> >> > > returned but we get a similar amount of donations. So we have that
> >> > constant
> >> > > churn to take in and out of a card catalog manually.
> >> > >
> >> > > We need borrowers to be able to check out books. I was thinking
> maybe
> >> > with a
> >> > > scanner attached to an iphone running an app. I didn't think
> >> librarything
> >> > > could do circulation. I thought it was just a catalog.
> >> > >
> >> > > What do you reckon?
> >> > >
> >> > > Cheers
> >> > > Rowan
> >> > >
> >> > > On 23 September 2011 21:34, David Mayo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >> > >
> >> > >> I think it's going to be difficult to find a solution that's
> entirely
> >> > cloud
> >> > >> based.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> What functionality do you need? If you have a very limited subset
> of
> >> > >> ILS/OPAC functions in mind, theoretically a LibraryThing paid
> account
> >> or
> >> > >> similar quasi-library service might suffice.
> >> > >>
> >> > >> I'm having trouble understanding how circulation works/is expected
> to
> >> > work
> >> > >> when librarians aren't present. Is there a sign-out sheet? How do
> >> you
> >> > >> monitor for lossage?
> >> > >>
> >> > >> - Dave Mayo
> >> > >>
> >> > >> On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 10:42 PM, rowan eisner <
> [log in to unmask]
> >> > >> >wrote:
> >> > >>
> >> > >> > Thanks Esme
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > No, the library is open all hours but volunteers just come in 2
> hrs
> >> a
> >> > >> week.
> >> > >> > I'm not sure how it could work but if we leave anything plugged
> in
> >> it
> >> > >> will
> >> > >> > get stolen or struck by lightning. We're in cloud forest.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > With koha and open-ils do we have to run the software on a server
> or
> >> > do
> >> > >> we
> >> > >> > just get an account on an existing system? Running a system
> >> ourselves
> >> > >> might
> >> > >> > take a lot for us to figure out.
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > Cheers
> >> > >> > Rowan
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > On 23 September 2011 16:38, Cowles, Esme <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >> > >> >
> >> > >> > > Rowan-
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Having a hosted catalog and circ system seems very easy to do.
> >> > There
> >> > >> are
> >> > >> > > several open source library systems such as Koha and Evergreen
> >> that
> >> > >> might
> >> > >> > > suit your needs:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > http://www.koha.org/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > http://open-ils.org/
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > Are there volunteers present the entire time the library is
> open
> >> to
> >> > >> > > borrowers? Or are you counting on borrowers having smartphones
> to
> >> > >> > complete
> >> > >> > > self-checkout?
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > -Esme
> >> > >> > > --
> >> > >> > > Esme Cowles <[log in to unmask]>
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > "I don't need to be forgiven." -- The Who, Baba O'Reilly
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > On Sep 23, 2011, at 3:27 PM, rowan eisner wrote:
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> > > > Apologies if this is the wrong forum, but if anyone can point
> me
> >> > in
> >> > >> the
> >> > >> > > > right direction...
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > We have an unstaffed library and can't leave a computer in
> it.
> >> Is
> >> > >> there
> >> > >> > a
> >> > >> > > > way to automate
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > 1) with no computer - do circulation and catalog in the
> cloud.
> >> > >> > Volunteers
> >> > >> > > > bring in laptops to do circulation and clients access catalog
> >> with
> >> > >> > > iphones
> >> > >> > > > 2) that doesn't cost a fortune
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Thanks so much
> >> > >> > > >
> >> > >> > > > Rowan
> >> > >> > >
> >> > >> >
> >> > >>
> >> > >
> >> >
> >>
> >
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