"hold the trademark in trust and not enforce it against any individual,
organization, or company who chooses to promote services around Koha in
Well, the point of having a trademark at all is generally to enforce it
against people who are calling something that is _not_ Koha "Koha."
Since LibLime is accused by the community of doing exactly that, that is
precisely what they are worried about, and want to make sure they can
call whatever they want Koha, regardless of whether the Koha Foundation
or Koha community thinks it is Koha. And just to make it not look quite
so bald, they say that not only LibLime, but _everyone_ should be able
to call whatever they want "Koha" regardless of whether the community or
foundation believes it is Koha.
It is not that surprising that this would not be acceptable to the Koha
On 11/23/2011 4:09 PM, Kåre Fiedler Christiansen wrote:
> So, a press release from LibLime states the following:
> "Another one of the assets acquired in the purchase of LibLime was an application for the trademark of the term Koha as it applies to ILS software in New Zealand. That application has now been accepted. PTFS/LibLime will hold that trademark in trust as well, and will not enforce it in order to insure that no individual, organization, or company will be prohibited from promoting their services around Koha in New Zealand.
> PTFS/LibLime is prepared to transfer the trademark to a non-profit Koha Foundation with the provision that the Foundation hold the trademark in trust and not enforce it against any individual, organization, or company who chooses to promote services around Koha in New Zealand. PTFS/LibLime encourages a direct dialog with Koha stakeholders to determine an equitable solution for the disposition of the trademark that serves the best interests of the libraries who use Koha."
> That sounds promising. Has LibLime seen reason, or am I misinterpreting things?
> Kaare Fiedler Christiansen - Software developer
> THE STATE AND UNIVERSITY LIBRARY,
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> Phone: +45 89462036
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> Sendt: 23. november 2011 19:03
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> Emne: Re: [CODE4LIB] Plea for help from Horowhenua Library Trust to Koha Community
> On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:17 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
>> A Division of PTFS, Inc.
>> Main Office
>> 11501 Huff Court
>> North Bethesda, Maryland 20895
>> tel: (301) 654-8088 Ext. 127
>> fax: (301) 654-5789
>> email: [log in to unmask]
>> Twitter: @liblime
>> How about we all contact them? ;)
> Our contacting them isn't as effective as their customers contacting them.
> You can get a list of known Koha installations from lib-web-cats:
> Which lists over 1200 sites ... the Library Journal, when they covered the
> purchase of LibLime last year, only mentioned that they had about 1/2 of those
> (140 libraries thought PTFS, 500 from LibLime):
> Although, I don't know if the lib-web-cats is libraries, or whole library
> You could get specific names of LibLime customers by looking through
> their website for testimonials scattered on the site, or get their more recent
> clients through the press releases in their 'news' feed: