On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:54 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> Thanks, Dave and Mark -- this is exactly what I needed to hear. The "folks" are one of those extremely poor non-profits with almost no staff and zero technical skills. A consulting company is pushing them in this direction saying that Drupal is buggy and WordPress is ... well, I don't know. Dang! I hate being in the middle of this. I still think they'd be better off going with one of the "known" CMS packages.
If you want to do the 'subtle' thing --
Recommend that they look at the support communities for each project.
The larger the community, the more likely things are going to be patched and fixed, even if there have been problems in the past.
The friendlier and more helpful the community, the less likely they're going to be at the mercy of the group selling them the product.
And yes, there have been problems with Drupal and WordPress -- and so for that reason, they're better off going with a hosted solution, so that the patches are done automatically for them, rather than their having to worry about every time a new exploit comes out. (and I'm guessing they're not big enough to be concerned about people specifically trying to hack stuff in their domain for street cred like we have to around here, nor do they have security show up seize their machine and/or block them at the firewall when they suspect there's been an 'incident')
It might be that CodeIgniter lets them make more custom applications than a generic CMS ... but if they're just looking to get information out there, and this website isn't part of their competitive advantage over other similar groups, generic CMSes are fine.
-Joe
> Quoting "Walker, David" <[log in to unmask]>:
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>> Are your 'folks' looking for a content management system, Karen?
>>
>> As Mark just mentioned, CodeIgniter is a web application development framework -- that is, a set of reusable programming code that makes it easier for programmers to build applications for the web. The key terms there being "programmers" and "build."
>>
>> That is a very different kind of thing from Drupal or WordPress, which are systems (that have already been built) to manage content for a website. You don't have to be a programmer to use either of those.
>>
>> --Dave
>> -----------------
>> David Walker
>> Library Web Services Manager
>> California State University
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark Jordan
>> Sent: Wednesday, December 14, 2011 6:08 AM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Experience with codeIgniter?
>>
>> Karen,
>>
>> I used CI for a project last summer, and thought it was easy to learn if you had done some PHP programming before and were familiar with MVC architecture, well documented, and had a fairly rich feature set. However, my impression is that it had a very small plugin/module ecosystem compared to Drupal or Wordpress. Before recommending it, you should review the categories under 'Contributions' at http://codeigniter.com/wiki to see if you can identify any glaring holes. But, overall, I'd say it's a pretty good PHP MVC framework (not that I've compared a lot of them).
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> Mark Jordan
>> Head of Library Systems
>> W.A.C. Bennett Library, Simon Fraser University Burnaby, British Columbia, V5A 1S6, Canada
>> Voice: 778.782.5753 / Fax: 778.782.3023 / Skype: mark.jordan50 [log in to unmask]
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> I'm helping some folks find a new platform for their web site, and
>>> someone has suggested codeIgniter as being simpler than Drupal or
>>> Wordpress. Anyone here have anything to say about it, good or bad? The
>>> site is small and light weight but it does have a database that needs
>>> to be managed.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> kc
>>>
>>> --
>>> Karen Coyle
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>>> ph: 1-510-540-7596
>>> m: 1-510-435-8234
>>> skype: kcoylenet
>>
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> Karen Coyle
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> ph: 1-510-540-7596
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