If Apple is "evil", I'd look more towards hardware and its environmental
manufacturing impact rather than software/OS/culture.

Everyone puts up a good face:

http://www.apple.com/environment/
http://www.lenovo.com/social_responsibility/us/en/index.html

But recent news is a bit alarming...

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environment/2011/oct/04/apple-chinese-pollution-concerns
http://valuestream2009.wordpress.com/2011/09/02/chinese-ngo-claims-apples-supply-chain-sustainability-is-rotten-to-the-core-will-consumers-agree/

Apparently it is difficult to capture statistics on the full supply
chain. However, if your interested you can pickup the first "Carbon Neutral
Footprint" laptop from ASUS

*http://tinyurl.com/d6lb76g*

Mark

On Wed, Dec 14, 2011 at 10:25 AM, Erik Hetzner <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> At Wed, 14 Dec 2011 09:54:09 -0800,
> Chris Fitzpatrick wrote:
> >
> > Thanks everyone for all the recommendations. I know this would be this
> list to ask.
> >
> > Sounds like Ubuntu is the overwhelming favorite. In the past when
> > I've used a linux in a non-server computer, there are always some
> > annoying problems... things like the laptop not waking from sleep
> > mode, power consumption problems, or the microphone not working.
> >
> > So, I wondering about specific laptop brands/models and linux
> > distributions/versions that people have found to work really well. A
> > Dell or ThinkPad with Ubuntu seems to be the popular choice?
> >
> > But, yeah, I know i started it, but I'm going to avoid going deeper
> > into my opinions on Apple vs. Windows vs. Linux and the implications
> > vis-à-vis productivity, copyright, social justice, and the plight of
> > the polar bear. If only out of concern that introducing this
> > discussion might cause the poor mail server at ND to meltdown…..
>
> For what its worth, I run Ubuntu happily on my old (2007) macbook. The
> only real tricky part is the lack of 2 pointer buttons. So you don’t
> need to get rid of the mac to switch off OS X.
>
> That said, I would not buy a mac again, if only because Apple has gone
> into full-bore evil mode.
>
> Finally, in my biased experience, a system running Ubuntu is now more
> usable than a system running OS X. This is my experience, and I am not
> going to argue about it. :) I imagine it works even better if you buy
> a system that is certified or pre-installed. And if you are interested
> in a netbook, although Ubuntu has discontinued the Ubuntu Netbook
> Edition, I think the Unity interface is pretty slick on a small
> netbook screen.
>
> best, Erik
>
> Sent from my free software system <http://fsf.org/>.
>
>


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