++

Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require
IRB approval?"  Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department,
Office for Human Research Protections.

http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart

Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of
research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import
standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer)

Joe Montibello, MLIS
Library Systems Manager
Dartmouth College Library
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On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB
>
>Have at it.
>
>While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
>disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
>approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
>the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
>things when we could instead make a fair use argument.
>
>Best,
>
>Mark
>
>On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be
>>available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request
>>to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without
>>even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the
>>archives to use them for whatever research they want.
>>
>>On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
>>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
>>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your
>>>IRB
>>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
>>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.
>>>
>>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
>>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet
>>>Researchers:
>>> http://aoir.org/
>>>
>>> Edward
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi all,
>>>>
>>>> I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying
>>>>how
>>>> concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
>>>> non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
>>>> implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
>>>> zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not
>>>>sure
>>>> about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
>>>> anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially
>>>>and
>>>> specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example
>>>>of
>>>> what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
>>>> snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or
>>>>concepts
>>>> most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
>>>> against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.
>>>>
>>>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
>>>>but
>>>> I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>>
>>>> Paul
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>>>> University Library
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