Joe:  I found the same chart and made the path below.  -- Paul



On 6/5/12 12:40 PM, Joseph Montibello wrote:
> ++
>
> Mark N's comments made me wonder, "what kinds of things *don't* require
> IRB approval?"  Here's a link to a page with the US's HHS department,
> Office for Human Research Protections.
>
> http://1.usa.gov/OHRPchart
>
> Nice little flowchart / decision tree. Looks like Paul's particular bit of
> research wouldn't require IRB approval. (import
> standardLegalDisclaimer.notALawyer)
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> On 6/5/12 12:19 PM, "Notess, Mark H"<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>
>> They are public: https://listserv.nd.edu/cgi-bin/wa?A1=ind1206&L=CODE4LIB
>>
>> Have at it.
>>
>> While I fully support ethical research and even IRBs, we do everyone a
>> disservice by appealing to IRBs to approve things that don't require their
>> approval, even if we're just doing so to be "careful." It reminds me of
>> the disservice we libraries sometimes do by asking for permission to use
>> things when we could instead make a fair use argument.
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> On 6/5/12 11:31 AM, "Jonathan Rochkind"<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>>
>>> I think our list archives ought to be public, and ought ideally to be
>>> available to anyone without even having to make an out of band request
>>> to ELM. Are they not, can't you just download them from the web without
>>> even having to ask?  Either way, yes, anyone should be able to get the
>>> archives to use them for whatever research they want.
>>>
>>> On 6/4/2012 4:54 PM, Edward M. Corrado wrote:
>>>> I personally don't have any objections to this, and in fact, would be
>>>> interested to find out what you discover. Make sure you check with your
>>>> IRB
>>>> to see if they require anything (sometimes even an anonymous survey can
>>>> require IRB approval) if you are considering publishing your results.
>>>>
>>>> Also, if you are concerned or interested about any potential ethical
>>>> issues, you may want to check out the Assocation of Internet
>>>> Researchers:
>>>> http://aoir.org/
>>>>
>>>> Edward
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Jun 4, 2012 at 4:44 PM, Paul Orkiszewski
>>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>
>>>>> I'm interested in analyzing the list archives with a goal of studying
>>>>> how
>>>>> concepts move through the list over time, the relationship (or
>>>>> non-relationship) between discussions in the list and eventual
>>>>> implementations and practices in the broader library community, the
>>>>> zeitgeist over time of an active development community, etc.  I'm not
>>>>> sure
>>>>> about the tools and products at the moment, but the outcomes would be
>>>>> anonymous and there would be no e-mail harvest of any kind, especially
>>>>> and
>>>>> specifically any commercial harvesting.  An initial idea as an example
>>>>> of
>>>>> what I'm thinking about is to generate word clouds that could give a
>>>>> snapshot of what's going on over some defined period of time, or
>>>>> concepts
>>>>> most closely associated with a particular term, or an overlap analysis
>>>>> against one of the library science databases.  Stuff like that.
>>>>>
>>>>> Eric Lease Morgan, the list admin, can provide an archive of the list,
>>>>> but
>>>>> I wanted to check with all of you before I asked for it.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> --
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>>>>> University Library
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