I don't think it's entirely black and white though.  It really depends 
on the type of site and the community it serves.

What about innovative interfaces, visualizations, and apps that are 
valuable resources, but simply not possible without modern browsers? 
These are usually extended or experimental services and may have a 
smaller user base.  I think it's perfectly reasonable in that case to 
let people know that they need to upgrade to join the party.

In the case of traditional services, such as the catalog, I agree that 
they should just work without disclaimers.

Right, I forgot about the dreaded restaurant sites with generic ambient 
loops and PDF menus.  Come to think of it, that might be an iPad feature 
to not display them! :)

-Shaun

On 7/12/12 3:44 PM, Aaron Collier wrote:
> I'd have to agree with this, as the one time I can recall putting this kind of message up we received complaints from faculty members.
>
>
>
> Aaron Collier
> Library Academic Systems Analyst
> California State University, Fresno - Henry Madden Library
> 559.278.2945
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> http://www.csufresno.edu/library
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Cary Gordon"<[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 11:25:03 AM
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Browser Wars
>
> I think that anyone using IE 6 knows that they are skiing on barrel
> staves. Those messages mostly piss folks off, particularly when they
> are on a library site.
>
> On the other hand, I really love getting "please update your Flash"
> messages on my iPad :<P
>
> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 11:18 AM, Michael Schofield<[log in to unmask]>  wrote:
>> Does anyone actually generate a conditional message--say, if LTE IE7--to
>> suggest that visitors upgrade or otherwise warn them about a wonky site?
>>
>> //Michael
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cary
>> Gordon
>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 2:11 PM
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Browser Wars
>>
>> While we will support anything that our clients want supported, we warn them
>> away from IE6 and other expensive to support antiquities. We definitely pay
>> attention to IE during development, as backtracking to fix an issue that has
>> been buried can be both depressing and expensive.
>>
>> We test in Chrome, Firefox, IE, Opera, and Safari. We test Responsive and/or
>> mobile sites in a range of mobile clients.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Cary
>>
>> On Thu, Jul 12, 2012 at 8:40 AM, Aaron Collier<[log in to unmask]>
>> wrote:
>>> Firefox is the leader on our stats, but I think that's mostly because it
>> is the default browser on almost any campus system. IE is close behind
>> though while mobile browsers are the most sparse.
>>>
>>> I guess the old "develop in firefox, test in IE" still holds true.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Aaron Collier
>>> Library Academic Systems Analyst
>>> California State University, Fresno - Henry Madden Library
>>> 559.278.2945
>>> [log in to unmask]
>>> http://www.csufresno.edu/library
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Brig C McCoy"<[log in to unmask]>
>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>> Sent: Thursday, July 12, 2012 8:28:03 AM
>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Browser Wars
>>>
>>> Hi...
>>>
>>> This is from the last six weeks from one of my public-facing websites.
>>> Definitely not going to drop MSIE support for the website at this rate:
>>>
>>> # #reqs #pages browser
>>> 1 18137 827 MSIE
>>> 8651 437 MSIE/8
>>> 7400 277 MSIE/9
>>> 1866 52 MSIE/7
>>> 193 42 MSIE/6
>>> 16 16 MSIE/5
>>> 11 3 MSIE/10
>>> 2 1809 441 Safari
>>> 1128 299 Safari/533
>>> 202 58 Safari/534
>>> 214 54 Safari/7534
>>> 79 23 Safari/6533
>>> 41 4 Safari/530
>>> 13 3 Safari/531
>>> 3 906 260 Netscape (compatible)
>>> 4 1287 182 Firefox
>>> 442 114 Firefox/13
>>> 408 34 Firefox/12
>>> 139 11 Firefox/10
>>> 163 6 Firefox/3
>>> 28 6 Firefox/14
>>> 11 5 Firefox/9
>>> 6 2 Firefox/4
>>> 12 2 Firefox/6
>>> 4 1 Firefox/15
>>> 8 1 Firefox/7
>>> 5 1164 175 Chrome
>>> 718 111 Chrome/19
>>> 409 61 Chrome/20
>>> 23 1 Chrome/9
>>> 4 1 Chrome/10
>>> 1 1 Chrome/5
>>>
>>> ...brig
>>>
>>>
>>> On 7/12/2012 9:33 AM, Michael Schofield wrote:
>>>> Ever since Microsoft announced the new IE auto-update policy, the
>>>> blogosphere is fussing. This is definitely important (and good) news,
>>>> but sites-Smashing Magazine has three articles on it in the last few
>>>> days-are really pushing the "drop IE support," and "its literally
>>>> slowing the internet down." I'm down, but that attitude-especially
>>>> for libraries-isn't really the right one to have. It is, IMHO, an old
>>>> view. A smart design strategy with progressive enhancement can
>>>> deliver content to . everyone - which should be the priority for
>>>> non-prof / [local-]government web presences over flare. Right?--
>>> Brig C. McCoy [log in to unmask]
>>> Network Services Coordinator
>>> Kansas City, Kansas Public Library
>>> 625 Minnesota Avenue
>>> Kansas City, KS 66101
>>> tel 913-279-2349
>>> cel 816-885-2700
>>> fax 913-279-2271
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Cary Gordon
>> The Cherry Hill Company
>> http://chillco.com
>
>
>

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Shaun D. Ellis
Digital Library Interface Developer
Firestone Library, Princeton University
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