Hi Cary,

That's great timing, since it will all be fresh in your mind.  :-)

-- Michael

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
> Cary Gordon
> Sent: Thursday, July 19, 2012 1:55 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] new server
> 
> I could do that.
> 
> By the time c4lCon rolls around, we will be completing the process of
> migrating most of our infrastructure to AWS. So far we have migrated
> several of our dev servers and some client production servers.
> 
> Scale at will is a complex topic and very much depends on the nature
> of the application. Most of our clients aren't anticipating a run on
> their services, although we did use Elastic Cache and CloudFront to
> mitigate an anticipated run on files attached to a big announcement by
> an NGO.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Cary
> 
> On Thu, Jul 19, 2012 at 11:04 AM, Doran, Michael D <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Hi Cary,
> >
> >> Amazon has gone from a metric-less, expensive and difficult to manage
> >> system to a solid infrastructure with better performance per dollar
> >> than we can get in our datacenter. The bonus is that we can scale at
> >> will.
> >
> > I, for one, would be interested in attending a half-day code4lib
> preconference workshop covering all the ins and outs of moving from
> locally hosted servers to Amazon.  Particularly if the presenter has
> moved multiple *production* servers to Amazon and can cover things like
> how to "scale at will" based on experience.
> >
> > -- Michael
> >
> > # Michael Doran, Systems Librarian
> > # University of Texas at Arlington
> > # 817-272-5326 office
> > # 817-688-1926 mobile
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> > # http://rocky.uta.edu/doran/
> >
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf
> Of
> >> Cary Gordon
> >> Sent: Monday, July 16, 2012 11:37 PM
> >> To: [log in to unmask]
> >> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] new server
> >>
> >> When you look at everything that goes into the TCO, it is hard to make
> >> a case for a physical server.
> >>
> >> We have about 17 years experience running systems starting with the
> >> California State Library's DEC Alpha. We won't miss running the
> >> datacenter on the weekend to deal with a drive failure.
> >>
> >> Amazon has gone from a metric-less, expensive and difficult to manage
> >> system to a solid infrastructure with better performance per dollar
> >> than we can get in our datacenter. The bonus is thatt we can scale at
> >> will.
> >>
> >> Cary
> >>
> >> On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 6:18 PM, Nate Hill <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> > I should have anticipated a lot of folks would be pushing AWS or
> >> Rackspace
> >> > or something off-site.
> >> >
> >> > At my last job in San Jose I would have *loved* to have outsourced
> all
> >> of
> >> > this because of the complications working with both city and
> University
> >> IT
> >> > and network.
> >> > I would have loved to have kissed those Windows servers goodbye and
> >> brushed
> >> > up on my Linux and had the 24 hour support and zero downtime
> guarantee
> >> that
> >> > came with such a solution.
> >> >
> >> > In Chattanooga, the situation is different.
> >> >
> >> > We've got the 1 gig connection, and it is a big piece of this
> wonderful
> >> > city's identity.  I definitely don't know enough about network
> >> architecture
> >> > to speak meaningfully about it, but we are moving from an antiquated
> >> setup
> >> > to the fastest public internet in the country.  It's pretty cool.  I
> >> don't
> >> > think outsourcing is really part of that plan, you know?  I'm really
> >> > looking forward to engaging the local geek community in creating
> local
> >> > solutions.
> >> >
> >> > I do imagine that in the future as we do one-off apps we'll
> experiment
> >> with
> >> > AWS.  For now, I'm awfully excited to set up some hardware, have
> >> control of
> >> > that hardware (that cannot be taken for granted in public libraries)
> >> and do
> >> > some tinkering.
> >> >
> >> > Yes... I do need more than just a production server, but I've got
> some
> >> > reconditioned boxes coming from the city that I can play with for
> >> testing
> >> > and staging (for now).
> >> >
> >> > For now, this server is going to run/host a Drupal website for the
> >> library.
> >> >
> >> > Please, anybody, do speak up if you think my approach is flawed...
> >> >
> >> > N
> >> >
> >> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 8:43 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> >> wrote:
> >> >
> >> >> This answer segues well into my question: why, exactly, do you want
> a
> >> >> physical server?
> >> >>
> >> >> I realize that there are plenty arguments for running your own
> >> hardware
> >> >> (and bandwidth is cheap and plentiful in Chattanooga -- which deals
> >> with
> >> >> the main carrying cost), but, presumably you'll need more than one
> >> (for
> >> >> replication and whatnot), right?
> >> >>
> >> >> What exactly do you plan to run/host on this server?
> >> >>
> >> >> -Ross.
> >> >>
> >> >> On Monday, July 16, 2012, Cary Gordon wrote:
> >> >>
> >> >> > We currently use Dell in our datacenter, but we are moving almost
> >> all
> >> >> > of our servers to AWS over the next 10 months.
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Thanks,
> >> >> >
> >> >> > Cary
> >> >> >
> >> >> > On Mon, Jul 16, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Nate Hill
> <[log in to unmask]
> >> >> <javascript:;>>
> >> >> > wrote:
> >> >> > > I'm shopping for a new dedicated server for our public library
> >> website.
> >> >> > > I'd like to run Ubuntu.
> >> >> > > Does anyone have any hardware suggestions/guidance they'd like
> to
> >> >> offer?
> >> >> > > I'd like to not spend a zillion dollars.
> >> >> > > Thanks-
> >> >> > >
> >> >> > > --
> >> >> > > Nate Hill
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> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> >
> >> >> > --
> >> >> > Cary Gordon
> >> >> > The Cherry Hill Company
> >> >> > http://chillco.com
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > --
> >> > Nate Hill
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> >> > http://www.natehill.net
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> --
> >> Cary Gordon
> >> The Cherry Hill Company
> >> http://chillco.com
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Cary Gordon
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