+1 to this!

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From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Cary Gordon
Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2012 13:14
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Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Wikis

WYSIWYG editors are the bane of my existence.

Cary

On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 7:31 AM, Pottinger, Hardy J.
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> I'll just say my experience with the Confluence WYSIWYG editor hasn't 
> been great. Now, partly, that might have been the fact that the one 
> page I tried using it on had been migrated from another wiki, so, to 
> be fair, the WYSIWYG editor was being presented with a challenge. But, 
> from a user's POV, I have to say, editing with a WYSIWYG editor on a 
> wiki is like a prank waiting for a punch line, and you, the 
> well-meaning user, are the punch line. If you don't want to be 
> embarrassed, I highly recommend going "advanced mode". :-)
>
> That experience has lead me to approach most WYSIWYG editors with caution.
> Don't trust 'em.
> --
> HARDY POTTINGER <[log in to unmask]> University of Missouri 
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> "Time and accident are committing daily havoc on the originals of the 
> valuable historical and State papers deposited in our public offices. 
> The late war has done the work of centuries in this business. The last 
> cannot be recovered but let us save what remains not by vaults and 
> locks which fence them from the public eye and use in consigning them 
> beyond the reach of accident" --Thomas Jefferson
>
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> On 7/25/12 8:32 AM, "Sean Hannan" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>As an administrator of a Confluence installation, I have to say that I 
>>hate it.
>>
>>Confluence is fine if you are not going to be touching it or doing any 
>>kind of local customizations (hooking it into local auth, etc.). If 
>>that's the case, you should really be looking at the hosted version.
>>
>>I've found that Atlassian is frustrating to deal with for support. I 
>>ran into a bug in Confluence that has been an open ticket in their 
>>issue tracker for 6 years. Years. I've found upgrades to be a pain, 
>>generally, and sometimes Atlassian will be fast and furious with them 
>>and it's hard to keep up. And the longer you wait, the more painful 
>>the upgrades become.
>>
>>I don't deal with the money side of things, but I definitely think 
>>that we do not get what we pay for with Confluence.
>>
>>-Sean
>>
>>On 7/25/12 9:05 AM, "Nathan Tallman" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>>> That's what I'm worried about with MediaWiki. The syntax used when 
>>>creating  and editing pages isn't intuitive and I'm afraid people 
>>>won't want to use  it. I was hoping someone would recommend a wiki 
>>>with more of a WYSIWYG type  of editing interface. Was also hoping to 
>>>stick with FLOSS, but perhaps I  should at least peak at Confluence.
>>>
>>> Thanks for the input,
>>> Nathan
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jul 25, 2012 at 8:50 AM, Nate Vack <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> If you're expecting "everyone" to create and edit pages, it will be 
>>>> very hard to get widespread adoption with it.
>>>>



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Cary Gordon
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