There are other interesting things that could be done with a survey... one
could ask Ross & Warren's questions in addition to the simpler "in
community"/"not in community".

Do women attend events and/or lurk on the list, but also not view
themselves as a member of the community, more than men do?

Deciding how to change the dynamics could be helped by answers to questions
like this.


On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 3:07 PM, Wilhelmina Randtke <[log in to unmask]>wrote:

> Um, no.  Anyone who takes the survey has to have gotten the incoming link
> from somewhere.  This listserv is the most likely source.  So, by your
> definition almost anyone with the URL for the survey is a community
> member.
>
> Self-defining as part of the community is about how people see their role.
> Otherwise the survey could just list all those things you said and ask if
> the person did them.
>
> -Wilhelmina Randtke
>
> On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:56 PM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > To second Rosy's point, if you are unsure if you are 'part of the
> > community' and you can answer yes to any of the following questions, you
> > absolutely can say 'yes' in the survey:
> >
> > You are on the CODE4LIB mailing list
> > You have attended a Code4Lib conference
> > You have submitted to a CfP to a Code4Lib conference
> > You tried to attend a Code4Lib conference but didn't register in time
> > You have a registered account on code4lib.org
> > You have a registered account on wiki.code4lib.org
> > You have submitted to or read the Code4lib journal
> > You follow planet.code4lib.org
> > You have been in the #code4lib IRC channel
> >
> > What I'm saying is that Code4Lib's "community" takes a lot of forms,
> don't
> > feel you need to be a regular in the IRC channel or something.
> >
> > -Ross.
> >
> > On Nov 27, 2012, at 2:39 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > > To our dear dear lurking friends,
> > >
> > > We would also like you to take the survey.  I put the "Do you consider
> > > yourself a part of the Code4Lib community." question in the survey
> > because
> > > I  wanted to make sure that people that were part of Code4Lib were
> > > separated from the random people that might take the survey -- like oh
> > say
> > > my mom (I'm not kidding, she would take the survey if she saw it).
> > >
> > > But then I was reminded that I once thought I wasn't part of the
> > community.
> > > I read the listserv all the time and then I decided to start a blog.
>  And
> > > then I went to a conference where I gave a lightning talk.  And now
> > Michael
> > > Klein is yelling at me to come back to the conference and IRC chat
> room.
> > >
> > > So now my hope for that question is that folks like you -- who think
> they
> > > are just a lurker -- will take the survey and respond no to the first
> > > question.  Then maybe we can figure out a way to turn some of those nos
> > to
> > > yeses.
> > >
> > > :)
> > > A former lurker
> > >
> > >
> > > On Tue, Nov 27, 2012 at 1:40 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > >> Ok Folks,
> > >>
> > >> I'm starting off small.  Let's do a quick survey of the community and
> > see
> > >> what the gender breakdown is.
> > >>
> > >> Survey Link: http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/68G5TBG
> > >>
> > >> It should take 1 minute to fill out.  It closes at the end of the day
> > >> Friday (midnight).  I'll share the results here on Monday when we're
> all
> > >> back to work and can have a lively discussion about what they mean.
> >  Expect
> > >> a chart (I like charts in addition to surveys).
> > >>
> > >> Rosalyn
> > >>
> > >> P.S. can someone share on the twitters?
> > >>
> >
>