On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 6:04 AM, Jonathan Rochkind <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Dude, I'm positive I'm a coder because I spend a whole lot of time coding, and I think I do it pretty decently -- and "search in Google" is a key part of my workflow!   So is debugging.   Hopefully copy-and-paste-coding-without-knowing-what-i'm-doing is not, however, true.
>
> But no need to be elitist about it.

Here, here!  But I do really try to figure out what the code does
before implementing/deploying.


> ________________________________________
> From: Code for Libraries [[log in to unmask]] on behalf of Friscia, Michael [[log in to unmask]]
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 8:45 AM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a "coder"?
>
> Thought process of a coder:
> 1- I need to open a file in my program
> 2- ok, I'll import IO into my application and read the definition
> 3- i create methods and functions around the definition and open my file
> Total time to deliver code: 5 mins
>
> Thought process of a non-coder
> 1- I need to open a file in my program
> 2- I open up a web browser and go to google
> 3- search "open file in java"
> 4- copy/paste the code I find
> 5- can't figure out why it doesn't work, go back to step 3 and try a different person's code
> 6- really stuck, contemplates changing the programming language
> 7- runs some searches on easier programming languages
> 8- goes back to Google and tries new search terms and gets different results
> 9- finally get it working
> 10- remove all comments from the copy/paste code so it looks like I wrote it.
> Total time to deliver code: 5 hours
>
>
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> Michael Friscia
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of Mark A. Matienzo
> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:03 PM
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: [CODE4LIB] What is a "coder"?
>
> Some discussion (both on-list and otherwise) has referred to "coders,"
> and some discussion as such has raised the question whether
> "non-coders" are welcome at code4lib.
>
> What's a coder? I'm not trying to be difficult - I want to make
> code4lib as inclusive as possible.
>
> Mark A. Matienzo <[log in to unmask]>
> Digital Archivist, Manuscripts and Archives, Yale University Library
> Technical Architect, ArchivesSpace