I'm also very interested in being mentored in a program along these lines.

I very much like the idea of combining training, mentoring and volunteering
- having a specific, practical project to work on, plus someone to talk to
about it, would be tremendously beneficial to me. And, you know, not to be
completely selfish - doing something useful to others would be great too.

Side note (also selfish): I hope that at least parts of this idea will be
available to people not attending the conference. I'd love to go to a
future conference, but I'm not making it to this one.


On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:16 PM, Andromeda Yelton <[log in to unmask]
> wrote:

> In terms of structure, drupalladder.org and Dreamwidth (
> http://wiki.dwscoalition.org/notes/Dev_Getting_Started ) are good models
> for how to scaffold the process for new developers, and to help new
> community members regardless of skill level find places they can contribute
> and understand the socially accepted workflow. --ay
>
>
> On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 1:33 PM, Rosalyn Metz <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
> > Hey Shaun,
> >
> > I was actually thinking about some of this this morning, so I'm happy to
> > see there is someone else out there thinking about the same things.
> >
> > I like the idea of some type of structure to a program, I wonder if maybe
> > we could combine Karen's idea of training with a mentorship program.
> >
> > I also like your idea of projects being a way to recruit future
> volunteers,
> > both because it helps us know where to go to find people, but also
> because
> > it would help newbies figure out what's out there in the Code4Lib world
> (it
> > took me forever to realize that the website was something i needed a
> > password to in order to vote).
> >
> > If you already started a wiki page point me to it, I'm happy to start
> > fleshing out ideas!
> >
> > Rosalyn
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 10:07 AM, Shaun Ellis <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> > > Hi Rosalyn,
> > > I agree that we should encourage women to step up and mentor other
> women
> > > at Code4Lib.  I also see the pairing of women mentors with women
> mentees
> > as
> > > fitting into an overall mentorship program, and I would be interested
> in
> > > collaborating with you and others to help frame it out.
> > >
> > > I don't think it needs to be very formal, but it would be important to
> > > give some structure to it so folks know what they are getting into, how
> > to
> > > make sure everyone meets their goals, and measure the effectiveness of
> > the
> > > program in terms of meeting code4lib goals (such as increasing
> diversity,
> > > getting more volunteer help, etc.).  We can start a wikipage to start
> to
> > > flesh this out, unless folks would like to use a different forum.
> > >
> > > In addition to the RailsBridge workshop, I was thinking that Code4Lib
> > > community projects would be a great way to both learn and recruit
> future
> > > volunteers.  I was also trying to find the list of maintenance projects
> > > wiki page that someone (Jonathan?) was referring to as being top
> > priorities
> > > for Code4Lib.  Is this it?
> > > http://wiki.code4lib.org/**index.php/AdminToDo<
> > http://wiki.code4lib.org/index.php/AdminToDo>
> > >
> > > Thoughts?
> > >
> > > -Shaun
> > >
> > > On 12/5/12 3:57 PM, Rosalyn Metz wrote:
> > >
> > >> So rather than focusing on statistics and math, I'd like to steer the
> > >> conversation in a different direction.  Let's say Ross is right and
> more
> > >> women chose to take the survey based on the topic -- maybe that's a
> way
> > to
> > >> get women involved in Code4Lib.
> > >>
> > >> Karen had the idea of creating a women Code4Lib IRC channel, maybe
> that
> > >> can
> > >> be a place to start.  Or maybe we have a few women that are willing to
> > >> step
> > >> up and be a Code4Lib mentor to other women -- similar to what we do
> for
> > >> the
> > >> new member event at the conference.  I'd even be willing to step up
> and
> > >> organize that if people like the idea.
> > >>
> > >> Thoughts?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:00 PM, stuart yeates <
> [log in to unmask]
> > >**
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>  On 06/12/12 09:05, Sara Amato wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>  I'd been staying out of this discussion, but the thought occurs to
> me
> > >>>> that someone with access to the list of subscribers might run that
> > >>>> against
> > >>>> a list of traditional boy/girl names, and be able to make some
> > guesses….
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>> That idea runs into problems both with non-western names (there is
> more
> > >>> than one kind of diversity) and those people whose experience of
> gender
> > >>> in
> > >>> the workplace have led them to use non-gender-specific identifiers.
> > >>>
> > >>> cheers
> > >>> stuart
> > >>> --
> > >>> Stuart Yeates
> > >>> Library Technology Services http://www.victoria.ac.nz/****library/<
> > http://www.victoria.ac.nz/**library/>
> > >>> <http://www.victoria.**ac.nz/library/<
> > http://www.victoria.ac.nz/library/>
> > >>> >
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > > --
> > > Shaun D. Ellis
> > > Digital Library Interface Developer
> > > Firestone Library, Princeton University
> > > voice: 609.258.1698 | [log in to unmask]
> > >
> >
>