Just because zoia has always been there (or panizzi) doesn't mean zoia
ought to be there going forward. Karen's point I think deserves
consideration. If zoia is in violation of the Code of Conduct, then
remedial action is warranted. I think in this case, rather then getting rid
of the bot, we can just remove the offending plugins.

/dev


On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Ross Singer <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Karen, I don't think there's any way we could do that.  zoia is just
> another participant in the channel, just like you or I would be, so it's
> exactly like interacting with another person.
>
> And one thing that I think is *somewhat* important to note before we give
> zoia the bum's rush or something before the conference, it's worth pointing
> out that zoia (and zoia's predecessor, panizzi) predates the conference
> and, in fact, presented at the first one:
>
> http://www.wallandbinkley.com/quaedam/2006/02_16_panizzi-speaks.html
>
> I don't mind gagging some of the noisier plugins (or I really like the
> idea of a @timeout plugin that shuts people off from zoia for a specified
> time period), but zoia is a pretty central code4lib character.
>
> Also, we generally ritually clear the karma database at the very end of
> the conference, which would be weird if zoia wasn't invited.
>
> -Ross.
>
> On Jan 18, 2013, at 10:36 AM, Karen Coyle <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> > Bill, I realize that. That's opt-out, and anyone new to IRC is not going
> to know that. So I am asking for the opposite, which may not be a current
> feature of IRC, but that those who wish to see Zoia's replies (and who
> therefore know about Zoia) should opt-in.
> >
> > Another option is a separate channel for the conference, but that may
> seem new and foreign to everyone, not just to new users.
> >
> > kc
> >
> > On 1/17/13 9:50 PM, William Denton wrote:
> >> On 17 January 2013, Karen Coyle wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is another possibility is for Zoia to be opt-in rather than opt-out?
> >>
> >> If you say
> >>
> >>    /ignore zoia all
> >>
> >> your IRC client will ignore everything she says.  You still see what
> other people say to her, which is a bit odd, but it really makes the
> channel a lot clearer.
> >>
> >> Bill
> >
> > --
> > Karen Coyle
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>



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