Karen, yes, there is a procedure for dealing with speaking up:
// Participants asked to stop any harassing behavior are expected to
comply immediately. If a participant engages in harassing behavior,
organizers may take any action they deem appropriate, including warning
the offender, expulsion from the Code4Lib event, or banning the offender
from a chatroom or mailing list. // [1]
It's easier to sense someone's discomfort in person. But in IRC,
there's no way to tell and the issue can only be addressed if someone
speaks up.
[1]
https://github.com/code4lib/antiharassment-policy/blob/master/code_of_conduct.md
-Shaun
On 1/23/13 10:28 AM, Karen Coyle wrote:
> "Speak up" only works if the speaker is treated with respect. If,
> instead, the speaker is assailed with a litany of "you shouldn't think
> that" and "you're spoiling our fun", then I doubt if you will get many
> speakers.
>
> There needs to be a procedure for dealing with "speaking up" that
> doesn't resemble a public drubbing. Until that is added into the policy,
> the policy itself is a false promise and likely to make things worse for
> anyone speaking up, rather than better.
>
> kc
>
>
> On 1/23/13 5:21 AM, Shaun Ellis wrote:
>> Isn't this why we have an anti-harrassment policy? Why not hold zoia
>> (and all bots) accountable to the code of conduct like everyone else?
>>
>> If zoia says something that makes you feel uncomfortable, then speak
>> up and we will take appropriate measures by removing the plugin or
>> removing that response from the data set. Let's not over-think it.
>>
>> -Shaun
>>
>>
>> On 1/22/13 10:56 PM, Bill Dueber wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Genny Engel <[log in to unmask]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guess there's no groundswell of support for firing Zoia and replacing
>>>> her/it with a GLaDOS irc bot, then?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I'm in. "We've both said things you're going to regret."
>>>
>>> [GLaDOS <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Glados> is the
>>> really-quite-mean AI
>>> from the games Portal and Portal2]
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 22, 2013 at 9:50 PM, Genny Engel
>>> <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Guess there's no groundswell of support for firing Zoia and replacing
>>>> her/it with a GLaDOS irc bot, then?
>>>>
>>>> *Sigh.*
>>>>
>>>> Genny Engel
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[log in to unmask]] On Behalf Of
>>>> Andromeda Yelton
>>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2013 11:30 AM
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]
>>>> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Zoia
>>>>
>>>> FWIW, I am both an active #libtechwomen participant and someone who
>>>> is so
>>>> thoroughly charmed by zoia I am frequently bothered she isn't right
>>>> there
>>>> *in my real life*. (Yes, I have tried to issue zoia commands during
>>>> face-to-face conversations with non-Code4Libbers.)
>>>>
>>>> I think a collaboratively maintained bot with a highly open ethos is
>>>> always
>>>> going to end up with some things that cross people's lines, and
>>>> that's an
>>>> opportunity to talk about those lines and rearticulate our group norms.
>>>> And to that end, I'm in favor of weeding the collection of plugins,
>>>> whether because of offensiveness or disuse. (Perhaps this would be
>>>> a good
>>>> use of github's issue tracker, too?)
>>>>
>>>> I also think some sort of 'what's zoia and how can you contribute' link
>>>> would be useful in any welcome-newbie plugin; it did take me a while to
>>>> figure out what was going on there. (Just as it took me the while to
>>>> acquire the tastes for, say, coffee, bourbon, and blue cheese,
>>>> tastes which
>>>> I would now defend ferociously.)
>>>>
>>>> But not having zoia would make me sad. And defining zoia to be
>>>> woman-unfriendly, when zoia-lovers and zoia-haters appear to span the
>>>> gender spectrum and have a variety of reasons (both gendered and
>>>> non) for
>>>> their reactions, would make me sad too.
>>>>
>>>> @love zoia.
>>>>
>>>> Andromeda
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Shaun Ellis
User Interace Developer, Digital Initiatives
Princeton University Library
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